King Charles shocking and disloyal book exposing royal secrets and attacking his family

Yes they are by using his words as a boast about killing and belittling the people he killed.

I think the problem Aveline, is the way that people are instantly leaping to demonise him, and her. They are happy to believe the worst things that can be said about them and to scream liar! liar! and make up all sorts of backstories that are based on prejudice.

So what else will people believe without any rational basis? This is why we have Brexit, isn't it?

Halfway through this book , it is actually (imo) informative & explains quite a lot especially about situations & accounts which have been
cruelly manipulated by all & sundry .
It is amazing that all or any of those concerned have retained any form of sanity .

Nope. It's no use. I'm struggling to care but, somehow, just can't.
More to worry about than all this

2013. It was all over the press when they though it would serve them, 10 years ago. So what's different now?

The press are making it a problem.

What happened in Afghanistan should have stayed in Afghanistan. Harry has enough experience of misrepresentation by the press to realise what may happen. Allegedly the Taliban have replied and they are not happy. Dangerous for Harry and his family.

volver

Smileless2012

You don't have to have watched anything to know what's been said, it's been all over the media.

Honestly?

The whole point is that the media misrepresent him, but apparently you don't have to read the books etc yourself because its all over the media???

And no, I haven't read the books or seen any of it so I don't have any deep and perceptive comments to offer about banyan trees. But I have seen the passage where he talks about how many people he killed in Afghanistan and its clear to anybody who reads it that he has been misrepresented in the media.

I, too, thought the point to his telling-all was to clear up years of media misrepresenting him. Not sure that worked well.

The banyan trees in India appeared to be impossible to dig beneath (hindsight). But there are many banyan trees - I can't know to Harry's tree. I'd not put miscarriage information out in a book - I assume others feel same. Perhaps cathartic for H&M?

VioletSky

I don't don't really odd that people I've seen say that they haven't watched any documentary or interview.... think they know the contents

Indeed.

But one can read it here, in detail, and every opinion.

Well said Normandygirl.

I think the book will impact hugely on the stability of the monarchy because it is forcing people to view them as ordinary mortals with the same problems and flaws as the rest of us.
The monarchy has always relied heavily on their ability to appear as special and somewhat mysterious to the general public and this book has gone a long way to destroying that idea.
If the public starts to see the monarchy as no different to anyone else then why should their subjects look up to them at all? If they are not " special " and above the rest of us, why are they there?
I think it is something that the late queen understood very well, I believe she was opposed to the very first documentary filmed in the seventies, showing them as an ordinary family, for that very reason. Once the monarchy lose that cloak of mystery and elevated status, they lose their validity altogether.

Smileless2012

You don't have to have watched anything to know what's been said, it's been all over the media.

Honestly?

The whole point is that the media misrepresent him, but apparently you don't have to read the books etc yourself because its all over the media???

And no, I haven't read the books or seen any of it so I don't have any deep and perceptive comments to offer about banyan trees. But I have seen the passage where he talks about how many people he killed in Afghanistan and its clear to anybody who reads it that he has been misrepresented in the media.

You don't have to have watched anything to know what's been said, it's been all over the media.

Of course your upbringing has an impact on the way you turn out icanhandthemback but that doesn't absolve the mistakes and errors of judgement made in adulthood, or the blinkered view that it is only his father and brother who may have some accountability.

It appears that in contrast to what he said about wearing a Nazi uniform in the Netflix series, in his book he is blaming William and Kate. Is that because of the way he was bought up?

Is the complete fabrication of how and where he was told about his GGM's death, because of the way he was bought up?

I think someone should tell Harry: when in a hole, stop digging 😉

Let's not forget tampongate

Some tried to call it camillagate at the time which just goes to show how easily the woman gets loaded with the blame

Find it, sorry, cold hands

I don't don't really odd that people I've seen say that they haven't watched any documentary or interview.... think they know the contents

Parsley3

^If the king can write a scandalous 'tell-all', have an affair and bring his mistress in as queen, clearly a side-character like Harry has zero power in the effect he'll have on the monarchy.^

People who support the monarchy seem to be very forgiving.

Indeed. KC telling of his affair, the Princess telling of hers, actual interviews, through the years - no impact whatsoever.

If the king can write a scandalous 'tell-all', have an affair and bring his mistress in as queen, clearly a side-character like Harry has zero power in the effect he'll have on the monarchy.

People who support the monarchy seem to be very forgiving.

Oreo

Those who mistakenly hope that this debacle around H&M will bring the monarchy here to an end, clock’s ticking and all that jazz, are in for a bloody long wait.
Harry has gone too far, the public here and in the US are already doubting his words and he’s losing support from his Army friends now as well.

I don't think any of us who feel sorry for Harry and what he's been through think it'll take the monarchy down.

If the king can write a scandalous 'tell-all', have an affair and bring his mistress in as queen, clearly a side-character like Harry has zero power in the effect he'll have on the monarchy.

icanhandthemback: Do you not think that your upbringing has any impact on the way you turn out? An awful lot of research about it has suggested that it does. I think in ordinary families that the throwing of everything towards one child whilst marginalising another can be considered abuse and has an impact on their psyche. I'm not suggesting that the RF are abusive but the impact is hardly surprising. He's not even the first person in the RF to feel that way.

Of course favouritism has an impact on children. No surprise members of the RF are impacted by favourite status. Princess Margaret's sad life seems an example played out in public.

Oreo

Those who mistakenly hope that this debacle around H&M will bring the monarchy here to an end, clock’s ticking and all that jazz, are in for a bloody long wait.
Harry has gone too far, the public here and in the US are already doubting his words and he’s losing support from his Army friends now as well.

Although I said above, "can't wait", I can really.

Tick tock.

Smileless2012

Not at all volver he's responsible for his own behaviour but the problem is rather than taking any responsibility, he's blaming his family and his role as spare decided at his birth, for the way he's turned out.

Do you not think that your upbringing has any impact on the way you turn out? An awful lot of research about it has suggested that it does. I think in ordinary families that the throwing of everything towards one child whilst marginalising another can be considered abuse and has an impact on their psyche. I'm not suggesting that the RF are abusive but the impact is hardly surprising. He's not even the first person in the RF to feel that way.

Those who mistakenly hope that this debacle around H&M will bring the monarchy here to an end, clock’s ticking and all that jazz, are in for a bloody long wait.
Harry has gone too far, the public here and in the US are already doubting his words and he’s losing support from his Army friends now as well.

And maybe he's right.