Young girls changing to please men

We plucked our eyebrows, we dyed our hair, we rolled skirts up and down but all of those things didn’t necessitate us going under the knife, injecting ourselves with substances or things that might endanger us and that might be irreversible.

Injecting ourselves with Botox etc, I mean.

Tattoos and piercings are also part of some kind of 'look' but they seem to be a different lot from the Jessica Rabbits. You don't see both trends together (do you)?

I find any body modifications quite revolting apart from temporary ones (as we had) which can be wiped off or washed out when you go to bed. You have the choice every day whether to look like that or not. It's not a life sentence!

Heavily tattooed or pierced people just turn my stomach I'm afraid. Why would you want to turn blue? Some of them look like aliens. I just don't understand why people need to modify their bodies like that, turn themselves blue or bang a lot of metalwork into their skin. It's vile.

I hope somewhere there is a nice girl with her own features who he can meet!

I wish this for my single son too. I asked him if young men liked the slug eyebrows, etc and he was horrified that I might think that. Needless to say his girlfriends have been lovely and natural looking young women.

I wish intelligent women like Carol Vorderman would set a better example.

beauty is big business

I just don't understand why people need to modify their bodies like that, turn themselves blue or bang a lot of metalwork into their skin. It's vile.

I think this, plus repeated surgery, is more of a mental health/emotional health problem.

The plastic surgery isn't a new thing - I went to Uni 25 years ago as a mature student and a number of the young girls on my courses had already had breast implants and a few had had nose jobs. They were quite happy to tell everyone about it. A couple had had breast implants as birthday/college graduation presents from their parents. What is new is young girls having repeated filler treatments to stop wrinkles. On TikTok there is a mother and teenage daughter who have almost the same treatments. There are lots of young men having fillers too. So many people scared of not looking 18 anymore.

JaneJudge

beauty is big business

It is indeed, the richest person is now Bernard Arneaux head of a string of beauty and fashion brands we all use.

I also agree women have always been made to feel insecure about their looks. I noticed someone has used the term 'lost her looks' on this thread itself. We all age, it is completely normal but I imagine ALL of us have had negative comments off people. I can think of two straight away said to me when I was young and pretty bloody attractive

1. Your hair would be nice if it didn't have kinks in it
2. You can't be pretty as you are too tall

I'm sure there are plenty more. There have definitely been comments about the shape of my nose

Oh and my boobs being small was commented on a lot when I was much slimmer

Sparklefizz

^I just don't understand why people need to modify their bodies like that, turn themselves blue or bang a lot of metalwork into their skin. It's vile.^

I think this, plus repeated surgery, is more of a mental health/emotional health problem.

It certainly is a mental problem in some cases but then you have heavily tattooed people like David Beckham. Does he have a mental or emotional problem? And there are so many young men covered in blue ink. Look at the Argentina football team who just won the World Cup. They looked like clones! Every single one has a tattooed arm and that awful short haircut, shaved all round the head and a tuft on top. I really can't think how a young man could make himself look any less attractive if he tried! Still they can go home to their Jessica Rabbit girlfriends and hopefully are all very happy.

What really concerns me is that some young women are undergoing vaginoplasty and labiaplasty because they think their genitalia look abnormal.

This may be because more young people tend to casually view pornography, and compare themselves and their partners to what they see. I don’t think many young women have unwaxed/unshaved pubic hair these days.

I wish that too Sparklefizz

Beauty is big business, yes. Or, to be more accurate, highlighting people's insecurities so that they modify themselves is big business.

It must be physically so painful /expensive and we are all the same on the inside, so what really changes?

JaneJudge small boobs are much better than fake ones!

Sparklefizz

^I just don't understand why people need to modify their bodies like that, turn themselves blue or bang a lot of metalwork into their skin. It's vile.^

I think this, plus repeated surgery, is more of a mental health/emotional health problem.

I agree that most people who feel the need

I walked into a large Boots store the other day and the first things I saw were large displays all devoted to ‘false’ beauty: false nails; hundreds of different false eyelashes; rows of fake tans and teeth whiteners. I suppose you could say hair dyes and all makeup come into this category but they just look so false. I suppose in my day I would have used them. Like most posters I find trout lips quite revolting how they can be considered in any way beautiful is quite beyond my comprehension.

I’m sorry, didn’t mean to post that incomplete stuff.

People who need to alter their appearance drastically have a mental health problem. Also, the kind of men who would find those women attractive are not the kind of men I would want.

We looked ridiculous to our parents' generation too - but it was all just clothes and make up - so reversible (except, maybe, our eyebrows never growing back).

Procedures and surgery are on another level, so quite a worry. Still, I agree with the comments above, that it's more to do with fashion, fitting in with peers, feeling attractive and impressing other women - than to please men.

My sons are just horrified by the 'Awful eyebrows, massive lips and Tupperware t*ts!'

It’s the bottoms I can’t get over, they look like the back ends of horses, how they get clothes to fit I don’t know, the lips are scary as if they are going to explode. I’m thankful my gd don’t do it but it does worry me how these young women feel necessary to do it. The plastic surgeons are just cashing in, they should feel ashamed ruining peoples bodies.
Farzanah, I can’t even think of what you suggest, that anyone would have those things. done is unbelievable, that should be banned and I want to know why not.
I wish there were more stringent rules in place, its finding a MP who feels its wrong and does something about it.

Dozens of photos of The Kardashians and J Lo wearing more or less nothing, but displaying their massively out of proportion buttocks. The comments (which are 99% from men) are appalling and pathetic, and read like something out of a porn mag. Is this really the reaction these women are spending fortunes to get?

I agree Callistemon. I’m thinking of Madonna.

I agree I’m thinking of Simon Cowell and a n7mber of other males too!

Poor Madonna. She was once so pretty. Now she looks plastic. All that talent and feels the need to do that to her body. I can't help but think she is actually suffering with low self esteem

People who need to alter their appearance drastically have a mental health problem

I don't think so and that is quite a sweeping statement Grandma70s
Some surgery to alter body and face is sometimes a good thing and improves not just confidence but actual physical relief eg breast reduction, a nose alteration, an eye lift if it causes sight problems etc

However, changing appearance to follow the latest trends by bloggers, TV reality stars is worrying.

I hope all young girls have to confidence to be themselves.

Delila

I agree Callistemon. I’m thinking of Madonna.

Oh, must take a look.

Oh, no, Madonna.

Please - show us how to grow older gracefully.