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Elizabeth I may have been non-binary, claims Shakespeare’s Globe

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GagaJo Sat 13-Aug-22 12:52:13

“I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman,” Elizabeth I once said to rally her troops to face the Spanish Armada, “but I have the heart and stomach of a king”.

And was a non-binary person too, according to academics working for Shakespeare’s Globe, who have cast doubt on the gender identity of one of England’s greatest queens.

Elizabeth I has been presented as possibly non-binary in an essay published by the theatre, which refers to the female monarch with the gender-neutral “they/them” pronouns.

The essay was written by a “transgender awareness trainer” in defence of the Globe’s decision to stage a new play featuring a non-binary Joan of Arc, but both the play and the essay have raised concerns that famous females are being written out of history.

The essay claims: “Elizabeth I… described themself regularly in speeches as ‘king’, ‘queen’ and ‘prince’, choosing strategically to emphasise their female identity or their male monarchical role at different points.”

This appears to reference the most famous speech attributed to Elizabeth, her 1588 address at Tilbury in which she braced the nation for battle with the Spanish, saying she had the “heart and stomach of king” and “a king of England too”.

‘Historical women adopted a male identity’
The essay on the Shakespeare’s Globe website, written by Dr Kit Heyam, suggests that historical women were not only rebels for performing what were considered typically male tasks, but also in some sense adopted a male identity.

Dr Hayem writes in regard to Elizabeth I as an armour-wearing military leader: “Inhabiting that social role and dressing in the clothes associated with it, while living and working among men, may not just have felt like gendered defiance: it may have had a profound impact on their sense of self.”

The essay defends Shakespeare’s Globe announcing a new play titled I, Joan, in which Joan of Arc is represented as non-binary. The teenage warrior, famed for leading the French against the English in the 100 Years War despite being a woman in a patriarchal society, has been given the pronouns “they/them” in Globe promotional material for the production.

Dr Hayem’s essay for the theatre argues that while historians have stated that Joan wore male armour out of “practicality” during her campings, “they” may have had “deeper motivations” related to “their” identity.

Author JK Rowling signalled her bemusement that Shakespeare’s Globe would be portraying Joan of Arc as non-binary by liking a Twitter post which read: “Coming next: Napoleon was a woman because he was defeated at Waterloo.”

‘Famous females will be written out of history’
Feminist thinkers have raised concerns that casting doubts on the womanhood of prominent women because they defied gender norms, and did supposedly “manly” things, will effectively write many famous females out of history.

Philosopher Dr Jane Clare Jones said: “This is a really great example of the inherent gender conservatism in gender identity ideology. Traditional gender conservatism says that men must do ‘manly’ things, and women must do ‘womanly’ things.

“Gender identity ideology reverses that and then we end up with the idea that anyone who does ‘manly’ things must be a man, and anyone who does ‘womanly’ things must be a woman.

“This is how we end up in a situation in which historical women who have performed traditionally ‘masculine’ roles end up being re-categorised as ‘trans men’ or ‘non-binary’ or ‘not-women’ in some way.

“This is a really regressive message to be sending out, especially to young women.”

‘A regressive ideology’
Joan Smith, author of the feminist volume Misogynies, said: “Women and girls are entitled to reject stereotypes without losing our sex.

“We didn’t have enough female role models to start with, we have spent decades rediscovering women artists, authors, leaders. And now a regressive ideology is trying to take them away.”

Born in 1533, Elizabeth I became England’s longest-serving female monarch until Queen Victoria, and was famed for overseeing the emergence of the country as an international power during her 44-year reign.

Named the Virgin Queen, she never married or had children despite this being the expectations of her contemporaries.

uk.news.yahoo.com/elizabeth-may-non-binary-claims-171338852.html

icanhandthemback Wed 17-Aug-22 16:13:27

Thank you for clarifying, Galaxy. This is such an inflammatory area and I never, ever intend to offend people. If I really disagree with someone, I normally say and agree to differ.

Doodledog, how lovely that is. I love old photos showing the differences to modern life. I find it really interesting.

Ilovecheese Wed 17-Aug-22 16:14:15

Doodledog and icanhandthemback I have a similar photo of my own father.

GagaJo Wed 17-Aug-22 16:31:17

Strategy? You give me far too much credit if you think I have a strategy.

Doodledog Wed 17-Aug-22 16:42:03

Oh, maybe it's an internalised communication style then? It doesn't really matter - it's what happens on these threads.

icanhandthemback Wed 17-Aug-22 16:46:15

Ilovecheese

Doodledog and icanhandthemback I have a similar photo of my own father.

Maybe we should start a thread with these sorts of photos. smile

Doodledog Wed 17-Aug-22 17:14:15

icanhandthemback

Thank you for clarifying, Galaxy. This is such an inflammatory area and I never, ever intend to offend people. If I really disagree with someone, I normally say and agree to differ.

Doodledog, how lovely that is. I love old photos showing the differences to modern life. I find it really interesting.

Me too. I'm away just now, but at home I have a book of old photos of various cities and towns in the UK, and it's fascinating, particularly the ones of areas I know well. I'll dig it out when I get home and let you know the title if you like? I hope that when those VR headsets become more mainstream they will develop opportunities for us to go virtually into the past, and walk along streets as they were in various times in history. I would absolutely love that.

(sorry for diversion, VS)

Doodledog Wed 17-Aug-22 17:14:53

That apology should be to GagaJo grin

Callistemon21 Wed 17-Aug-22 17:36:40

Icanhandthemback and Doodledog
I have a photo of my late father in law (born 1920) in a frilly dress with long ringleted hair. It is impossible to tell that he was a boy. I think he would have been about two.

My mother was a nanny and I think that little boys wore dresses because it was easier for nappy changing and toilet training. Trousers were quite complicated to remove before the days of zip fasteners or pull-down trousers.

The change for a boy into wearing trousers was a rite of passage and was known as breeching.
The term is presumably from the old term for a type of trousers called breeches.
I can remember my mother telling me about breeching.
My much older brother wore dresses when he was little and had lovely blond curls.

icanhandthemback Wed 17-Aug-22 18:28:29

Yes please, Doodledog.

Callistemon21, we used to do English Civil War Reenactment so learned about it there. I could never get my boys to be authentic though!

MiaLee Sat 24-Sept-22 16:53:20

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