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Tavistock Gender Clinic to close - it failed vulnerable under-18s

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FarNorth Thu 28-Jul-22 16:35:00

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This is an article from The Times.

grannydarkhair Tue 02-Aug-22 21:55:37

Yet another de-transitioner speaking out.

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FarNorth Tue 02-Aug-22 22:58:00

Dr David Bell, ex-staff Governor at The Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust

"Many of the GIDS therapists I spoke to said that when they mentioned the idea that there might be unconscious factors behind gender dysphoria there was laughter from senior staff.

‘Don’t give us all that psychotherapy talk,’ they were told. Given this history of mistreatment, it would be inappropriate for any of the GIDS staff to have anything to do with the new services NHS England has announced will now be provided locally. Hospital management had plenty of opportunities to intervene."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11065129/More-time-spent-assessing-facelifts-life-changing-decisions-Tavistocks-ex-governor-reveals.html

FarNorth Sat 06-Aug-22 13:17:18

"A woman who had testosterone injections and a mastectomy at the Scottish equivalent of the Tavistock clinic before “detransitioning” back has said that its children’s service should be closed.

Sinéad Watson, now 31, was treated after self-referring to the Sandyford clinic in Glasgow when she was 24."

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ecd6d75c-14e6-11ed-b7ce-9b24bf628db2?shareToken=bfc3eb618316fc32da6fdc92f8d875fc&fbclid=IwAR0wgkt6XbAnFbw9d3aTQbfICO6vni7HwTAhJnTw5pzpKzGYyFjN5NycY3A

Chewbacca Sat 06-Aug-22 13:38:36

I have a family member who works at the GMC and he's said, that in the past 2 weeks, they've received more enquiries from people who are claiming that they didn't receive adequate advice and support before they transitioned, than in the whole of the previous 2 years. Those enquiries are asking if they have legitimate grounds to open a case against the NHS.

Smileless2012 Sat 06-Aug-22 14:02:28

It's awful to think that some people took life changing decisions without having adequate advice and support. Perhaps more open debate about this issue is giving those affected the courage to be able to speak out.

FarNorth Sat 06-Aug-22 17:09:49

Chewbacca does it look like there will be grounds for that, for some people?

Smileless I expect people just accepted that they made a wrong decision and/or they had unfortunate results from their treatment, and now the publicity has caused them to realise things should have been done differently.

It's really astonishing that the NHS took this on so wholeheartedly (in my opinion ).

Doodledog Sat 06-Aug-22 20:50:14

Agreed. I can see a class action coming that will cost the NHS a fortune.

Chewbacca Sat 06-Aug-22 21:52:50

does it look like there will be grounds for that, for some people

I think so FarNorth but, before they get to the stage of whether there are grounds for a claim, they have to conduct a full enquiry that goes right back from initial GP consultations, right through to post procedure to see if everything has been done properly. And that can take a couple of years to complete, which, in itself, is costly.

Smileless2012 Sun 07-Aug-22 13:04:44

I'm sure you're right FarNorth and maybe thought there'd be little or no understanding if they did speak up.

That's going to be one hell of a complex and expensive enquiry isn't it Chewbacca.