the law as it stands on sex - part 3

Apologies for the DM - I read it to get a balance.
But I couldn't help laughing at this:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10763779/Women-allowed-swim-topless-German-pools-swimmer-told-cover-breasts-says-theyre-trans.html

Seeing the fuss my husband makes with a minor cold, I cannot imagine the fuss if he had to give birth...?

"People with penises don't have babies" If they did, it might bring home clearly to them just why women say that men with penises are not women. Reminds me a little of the old saying that if women had the first baby and men had the second, there would never be a third. Maybe that should be amended to say that if men had the first, there would never be a second.

Peter Tatchell seems to have started a debate about whether a school should advise parents if a child tells them "they" are trans.

I think a school should advise parents of anything relevant, if it affects their child - they are minors, and parents are, ultimately responsible for them.

(Obviously not if the child discloses something about the parents being abusive though.)

Other than that, parents should be kept informed.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10762383/Campaigner-says-schools-tell-parents-child-transgender.html

SueDonim. I’d like to say it’s unbelievable! Sadly there are some people who will believe it. I go further and say there are some people who will say that because it’s now in writing it must be true. It’s still a lie.

Have you seen the latest about men giving birth? I’m beginning to think that I’m hallucinating all this stuff. It’s extraordinary how people seem to have swallowed the trans thing hook, line and sinker.

reduxx.info/exclusive-midwifery-students-taught-how-to-care-for-males-giving-birth/?fbclid=IwAR3dWyyQCnrm7PaTowQuCvqpTekJTgCbM7fgj6qkOVbc_hZuxk8Zj1Uv9Ec

And the excellent millihilli’s response. millihill.substack.com/p/people-with-penises-dont-have-babies?s=w&fbclid=IwAR3-RM1s1zbITgPvjmDYP0lmQDAcWhYu_kvBdGIkfVxE4i5gfnHSPuzgHUk

Sorry FarNorth! How could I have forgotten they’d fixed the vocabulary!

I sincerely hope that there is a PR team beavering away somewhere looking at how the LP can turn this around, The tide is (I hope) turning when it comes to public opinion, but Keir and the others are behind the curve, and it could cost them dear.

Oh, that's easy, Mollygo.

Transwomen can experience misogyny and sexism because they are women.

Tbf, I think misogyny and sexism could happen towards transwomen or transgirls from persons or organisations which regard them as female.
It doesn't mean they actually are female.

Regardless of your politics and the fact that I’m in favour of all this being uncovered, I find these two statements incongruous.
March 2022
Sir Keir Starmer refused to answer the question of whether a woman can have a penis in the latest Labour Party confusion over the transgender debate.
The topic has been a point of division in the party for more than a year after Sir Keir said backbencher Rosie Duffield’s comment that “only women have a cervix” was “not right”.
April 2022
On Wednesday, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer told the House of Commons:
"But I hope he (PM) has also sent a clear message that there is no place for sexism and misogyny . . . in this House, or in modern Britain

I read about the paedophile with the dummy abd elf outfit, who IDs as a 5 year old girl some time ago. There’s an individual in our town, who dresses as a toddler, pushes a doll prank and sucks a dummy. Very chilling image h/she looks as they stride through the town centre, or attend public meetings, talks and discussions.
It’s good to be able to wonder about the personality under the dressing up, without being accused of either transphobia, or only mentioning ‘extreme’ cases. My life and work experience leaves me concerned about the potential risks to children, or very vulnerable people posed by these attention seeking, no doubt psychologically disturbed individuals

FarNorth

Here's another of those incredibly rare occurrences - a 60yr old who identifies as a 5yr old child and says 'she' is terrified of going to jail for assaulting young children.

metro.co.uk/2022/04/26/dummy-sucking-paedophile-in-a-santa-elf-outfit-is-spared-prison-16534222/amp/

I've been working today, so haven't opened links, but have done it now and am amazed that this person is not in jail.

How can he not be a danger to others? How? Of course he's not typical of transwomen (far from it), but it is the power they have over the judiciary amongst other institutions that has given him this protection. It's madness.

It is also unlawful to discriminate against anyone for believing that transwomen are not women.

I think it was posted a few pages ago that the only legislation on this subject is the 2010 Equalities Act.
Categories covered:
Types of discrimination ('protected characteristics')

It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:

age
gender reassignment
being married or in a civil partnership
being pregnant or on maternity leave
disability
race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin
religion or belief
sex
sexual orientation.
I wonder how many cases of which category have been brought and how many were successful.

They've tried homophobia and racism, against anyone standing up for female rights, despite the accusations being transparent nonsense.

I wonder what accusation will be next??

I think that women mean so little to many TRAs - we are not male, we haven't even bothered to 'transition' to become weaker males, that we just don't count.

In the Brave New World there are men and transwomen at the top, then transmen, then menstruaters/breeders/cervix havers, who are only good for bringing forth the next generation.

If women did matter, we would have been listened to before now.

Chewbacca

^A transgender Rikers Island inmate with previous arrests for assault raped a female prisoner after she finished showering in the women's section of the violence-plagued New York City facility.^

Ramel Blount, 33, who goes by the name Diamond Blount, pleaded guilty to the sexual attack in a deal on April 7, the Bronx District Attorney's Office announced Monday.
The 33-year-old victim, whose name was not released, had just finished showering when Blount approached her from behind, held her down by the back of her neck and raped her at the Rose M. Singer center on February 8.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10755219/Transgender-Rikers-inmate-incarcerated-assault-housed-womens-wing-RAPES-female-inmate.html

I missed this post earlier.

I used to think "It'll take something horrific happening to a woman to get things changed."
But it seems even that makes no difference as we see the increasingly frequent 'rare occurrences '.

This can't possibly be framed as anything other than a violent attack by a male.

There was never any reason why it should have been deleted. It is not uncommon for threads to run to more than one part - deleting this would surely have meant deleting them, too. As for naming people in a post - what difference does it make if that post opens one thread or ends the previous one?

I can't help thinking that the 'spot the transwoman' game didn't go the way it was intended (whatever that was), but as it was conveniently at the end of a thread, it was hoped that the game would die with it. Similarly, the 'nobody's rights are violated' thing was shown to be nonsense, so rather than attempt to defend it, getting the thread pulled would have been an easier option, as well as an opportunity to show righteous indignation that pesky women have dared to question the rights of men to enter our spaces.

I stopped worrying about it on page 1 FarNorth.

That reminds me, this thread hasn't been deleted yet. Do you think we can all stop worrying about that now?

Because their arguments are weak Doodledog, if they can't shut us up with accusations of trans phobic they play the racist card.

It's unfortunate for them that it doesn't make sense so they have to cast around for whatever they can find to cling to.

Why do people trying to make an untenable case always compare it to something emotive and unconscionable such as racism? We've had it on here when we've complained about men competing in women's sports - because a small number of black athletes have been affected by sex anomalies anyone questioning allowing transwomen to compete as women is accused of being racist. It's like they've all been sent a cribsheet of standard responses to criticisms of their ideology.

Good ole whataboutery FarNorth!

A friend has said to me that the statistics for male crimes mean nothing.
They compare them to higher figures for crime by black people and ask if that means I'd support restrictions on black people.