trisher
When I got my first pair of jeans, way before trousers were accepted women's wear, my mother wouldn't buy me ones with a fly front, lady's jeans had a side zip. My mother told me that if I wore the fly front ones I would be arrested for wearing men's clothes. I don't know if that was true or not, she certainly believed it. I have no desire to see my GD subjected to restrictions about her clothes because there are vigilante groups out looking for transwomen or anyone who looks a bit butch.
But Trisher We have been wearing jeans with front zips for decades. Some women wear dungarees, with or without a Tshirt, a grandad vest or even a frilly blouse if they feel like it. Some wear their underwear over the top of their outer clothes. And those are the more conventional ones. No-one is going to restrict what your grand-daughter wears.
Some men wear pink shirts and purple trousers, some wear kilts, some jeans, some skirts, some lounge suits, some look as though they stepped out of bed and grabbed whatever was lying on the floor. That has nothing whatsoever to do with them wanting to enter a race in the women's class after spending twenty years using their natural generous supply of testosterone to develop their male musculature and heart and lung capacity. Be real!
However, I know well from the past that you debate as an intellectual exercise using all the techniques of the debating society - of which techniques relevance comes far down the list, after distraction and accusation.
As the Mock Turtle said to Alice, when she asked what he learned at school:
'Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with ... and then the different branches of Arithmetic--Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision.
