Wales to offer Covid jabs to children 5 to 11y. ???????

Parents having to stay at home to care for a poorly child is not a justification for vaccinating the whole population of 5-11 year olds against Covid when the majority have probably had it or been in contact with it already.

Very sadly, I believe about 6 children in that age group have died from Covid.
As I previously posted CV/CEV children should be offered the vaccine
I do not want to see families pushed into vaccinating their youngsters in order to go on holiday abroad.
I agree

I'd need more reason than that and I don't think parents should be made to feel guilty if they decide not to have their young children vaccinated.

My son can’t wait to get his nine year old vaccinated. My daughter has said she will not have her children vaccinated, although both she and her husband are fully
Interesting maddyone, your DD's decision will be clinically based, I'm sure.

So it's OK to deny parents a choice? When scientific advice is that it's worth younger children being vaccinated and it will be available in Scotland and Wales? Why is it only English children who are being denied the choice?

Where are all those freedom fighters, who want the right not to have wear masks? Surely they should be fighting for the freedom to choice!

Callistemon I'm not talking about forcing anybody to have their children vaccinated - or making them feel guily. I'm talking about offering them a choice.

JCVI has said it's safe. Scotland and Wales will be offering young children a vaccination. It's only England which is denying its children vaccinations and seems to think it knows better than everybody else.

Urmstongran

Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that the thousands of infant and junior school children who test positive for Covid go back to school after a few days with symptoms of a cold.

It's not your role to question JCVI's decision. I doubt if you have more evidence than they have.

growstuff

So it's OK to deny parents a choice? When scientific advice is that it's worth younger children being vaccinated and it will be available in Scotland and Wales? Why is it only English children who are being denied the choice?

Where are all those freedom fighters, who want the right not to have wear masks? Surely they should be fighting for the freedom to choice!

No where have I said that I deny parents to chose please do not put words into my virtual mouth growstuff

If you read my posts I have said that I am not happy with it.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

I am not happy with healthy 5-11 yr olds having the Covid Vaccine.

I think that if they are CV or CEV then it’s different and they probably should be able to have it.

Omicron has been through the little primary school next door to us, no children were very poorly, the majority were asymptomatic. GC goes there and I have been friends with the Head Teacher for over 20 years, and know several of the teachers and TAs also, who have told me this.

As far as I understand all Covid vaccines have been granted emergency use licenses until the trials officially end in Spring 2023. The was confirmed by one of the more knowledgeable posters who unfortunately is no longer posting.

Why aren't you happy? Where's the evidence it's a risk to young children? (And please no nutjob conspiracy sites!)

growstuff I am not into nutjob conspiracy sites

I can remember the epidemiologist and the Scottish Professor who are on BBC1 breakfast show Saturday mornings having a discussion on the pros and cons of vaccinating the under 12’s .

There were no specific pros, other than protecting the elderly and CEV, as those vaccinated are able to carry/infect others as well as contracting Covid themselves that pretty much negates the need to vaccinate all children to protect others.

As I previously posted CV/CEV children should be offered the vaccine, I do not want to see families pushed into vaccinating their youngsters in order to go on holiday abroad.

I do not wish my AC to feel obligated to have their children, (my grandchildren )vaccinated to protect me (I am CV) it is my responsibility to protect myself.

It's not up to you to decide who is vaccinated. Do you have any links to reputable sites, where it's shown that JCVI's decision is wrong?

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

So it's OK to deny parents a choice? When scientific advice is that it's worth younger children being vaccinated and it will be available in Scotland and Wales? Why is it only English children who are being denied the choice?

Where are all those freedom fighters, who want the right not to have wear masks? Surely they should be fighting for the freedom to choice!

No where have I said that I deny parents to chose please do not put words into my virtual mouth growstuff

If you read my posts I have said that I am not happy with it.

That's up to you whether you would accept it for your children!

The British government is stopping English children from being vaccinated, while Welsh and Scottish children will be offered it.

English parents are being denied a choice.

growstuff I am entitled not be happy with vaccinating 5-11 year olds, my opinion, nobody else’s.

My not being happy will have absolutely no part in the decision that this or any other Government makes with regards to its vaccination policy.

I am somewhat confused. I am in Yorkshire and a medically vulnerable child near me has been vaccinated. My healthy grandchildren will not be vaccinated. Their parents do not agree with it. I am very pleased by their decision. The parents have had theirs as have we, the grandparents.

I don’t think English parents will be denied a choice growstuff. The English (in this context) government are dragging their feet, maybe due to the allegedly poor relationship between them and the scientists and doctors due to disregarding their advice on Covid restrictions being lifted, but it’s recommended by JCVI, so there is bound to be an announcement soon to say that England is to offer it as well.

I don't think anyone should be made to feel guilty or a that they are endangering others if they decide their small children will not have the vaccine either.

Where do you think that pressure would come from Callistemon21, the education sector? I can see they would be the ones most affected.

Some sectors of society, Casdon

It is evident even on sites like Gransnet.

And to add, if teachers and school staff have been fully vaccinated, they should not put pressure on parents to have their small children vaccinated not should the educational authorities.

If they did do that, it would show a lack of faith in the vaccines they had had, ergo what would be the point of children being vaccinated?

I see, if that’s the case they aren’t listening to what the governments have been saying though, it’s finely balanced which is why it’s taken so long to rule, and why it’s very much an option rather than a firm recommendation. It should be totally up to the parents in my opinion.

I am completely in favour of this but then I am 100% in favour of vaccinations generally.

Covid vaccines are safe.
That’s the bottom line surely?

Just been on the news children will be able to be vaccinated if their parents wish. Sorted. you have a choice.

I'm glad it's not my decision to make.

No I do have that decision to make either. However, I would find it very easy. 'No'.

My reservation is that as the pandemic is definitely waning, is this even necessary JenniferEccles at this stage of the game? Parents will decide for themselves.
Even in England now it seems.

I’m not disagreeing with you growstuff as I now think that it’s the correct time to offer the vaccine to the parents of children. Unless any of us are parents of children aged 5-11 it is a moot point anyway since we would not be making that decision. It is for the parents to decide if and when the vaccination is offered to this age group. Long Covid is of course a consideration, but the majority of people who have long Covid do recover completely within about three months, or so I’ve read. I’m aware that some people don’t recover in that time, myself included. I still have the scars on my lungs from when I had Covid a year ago and I have a horrible hacking cough permanently. Nonetheless the parents will decide if this vaccine is offered to children, it will be nothing to do with most of us.

I do see your point Urms about the pandemic waning and I am totally in favour of the plan for all restrictions to be lifted later this month, but as the vaccines are found to be so safe, I wonder why some folk are hesitant.

I guess it might be because there haven’t been extensive trials here on five year olds?
On the other hand I believe the USA has been vaccinating youngsters for a good few months now with, as far as I am aware, no adverse effects.

Some people maintain that at 5 it’s too young, yet babies have multiple vaccines at just a few months old.

maddyone I agree totally with your post. Since I last posted, it's been announced that children in England will be offered vaccination, so parents will be offered the choice and I'm happy with that. I'm not clear why the Westminster government was hesitant about accepting a scientific decision.

There will be an increasing amount of data available about long Covid over the next months and years. At the moment, there are some worrying signs and I think the NHS and social services needs to be prepared for the future. Covid isn't just going to disappear, even if nobody else gets infected.

Callistemon21

And to add, if teachers and school staff have been fully vaccinated, they should not put pressure on parents to have their small children vaccinated not should the educational authorities.

If they did do that, it would show a lack of faith in the vaccines they had had, ergo what would be the point of children being vaccinated?

Who's saying anything about putting pressure on anybody?

It's about giving people choices, which it appears that parents in the UK now have - thank goodness!

I too am heartened that parents across the entire UK will now have the choice. I'm guessing the lower down the age group we go, the fewer the number of parents will take up the offer?
A logistical nightmare I would imagine, and needs to be carried out extremely sensitively with such young children. I assume the vaccinations will be carried out in schools and that parents can attend as it is a proper needle, not a puff up the nose.
I also hope there won't be mixed messages from health workers as we had a year ago when pregnant women were being given conflicting advice by midwives and doctors.