Legacy of the fraudulent referendum

Not from me Barmeyoldbat. I did so light years ago.
Check out my historical posts, if you can be bothered.
Not going there again.
As I said ‘Groundhog Day’.

Please can someone give me a list of the benefits from BREXIT

Urmstongran

^Many who voted for Brexit have now come donw with a bump, and have the grace to say they were conned. Respect for them^

I don’t think you even have the self-awareness Kali2 to understand just how patronising that statement is.

How is it patronising to show respect to those with opposing POV's who have backed down?

No sense of 'We told you so.' Just... respect.

No, I don’t think it does Granniesunite. Sorry.
It just illustrates that after 5 years on this roundabout, opinions are entrenched.
Never the Twain shall meet.

That demeans you Urmstongran.

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I haven’t seen the context of MH’s remarks but what about the false promise on the Brexit bus? What about ‘This will be the easiest deal we’ve ever done’.? What about ‘What about ‘We hold all the cards?’ What about the ‘advisory’ referendum being transformed into a binding commitment?

‘Nuff said indeed.

Jaberwok

You and me both Urm. Resolution: Avoid GN politics. I must stick with this time.

Quite Jaberwok.
All due to Brexit, or is it Climate Change? I forget which, its always one or the other.

Those posters making negative comments about this article seem to be doing so purely on the basis of the way the author voted and not on the points he raised.

I thought it was a very balanced and concise summing up of the situation we find ourselves in. The measured and intelligent way in which it was written made me long for the days when politicians spoke/wrote like this.

He perfectly captured how saddened I feel about the loss of rules put in place to protect workers, the environment and animals and the loss of opportunity and a ready source of essential workers through immigration.

Urmstongran and Jaberwok I would be really interested in your thoughts on the points Mr Hesteltine raised in the article.

Perhaps it's time we started trying to understand each other rather than throwing our hands up in desperation. Otherwise it will always be Groundhog Day.

You and me both Urm. Resolution: Avoid GN politics. I must stick with this time.

Marydoll

I am not a fan of the Tories, but I have always had the greatest respect for Michael Heseltine. In my opinion, he would have made an excellent Prime Minister.

Yep me too. Can you imagine him sanctioning illegal, immoral get together.

Actually ... here we go round the Mulberry Bush.
It’s Groundhog Day.
Why do I even get sucked in? It’s desperate really.
I’m out.
?

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Jane Marydoll and granny rebel thank you.

Urmstongran

Heseltine voted Remain.
‘Nuff said.

Remain voters often said (in the past) that the referendum was ‘fraudulent’.
Cited Russian influence.

This was debunked. They should get over themselves.

Yes indeed enough said. Good man.

Jaberwok

Michael Hesseltine is very miffed at losing his very substantial agricultural subsidy from the EU. A very wealthy landowner and not really a person subsidies should be for. Obnoxious man in every sense.

Obnoxious ? How ?

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GrannyGravy13

Blame the folks who could not be bothered to get off of their backsides to vote, not the ones that did!!!!!!

???

Then whinge.
They only have themselves to blame.

GrannyGravy13

Blame the folks who could not be bothered to get off of their backsides to vote, not the ones that did!!!!!!

Oh but I did vote, many of us here on GN did! Many who voted for Brexit have now come donw with a bump, and have the grace to say they were conned. Respect for them.

Pantomime indeed- never seen the like!

I think so, GrannyGravy13

"It's behind you", cry all the Brexiters!

Blame the folks who could not be bothered to get off of their backsides to vote, not the ones that did!!!!!!

Is it still panto season ?

Oh no, it wasn't.

Erm ... it was.

Oh no it wasn't