BBC ánd Prince Willuam

Well I'm not a Harry Hater. I'm yet to see any lies on this thread. I'm not a Harry Lover either.

What has happened is the BBC news broke yesterday and the Apple mental health documentary was aired last night.

So the two things have merged.

Anyone watching Breakfast TV or reading news media online will have seen news about both.

SKY news is headlining with news about the Harry documentary.

I have been annoyed and disappointed with the BBC for years, not over this particular issue. But I would be very careful about hastening the demise of the BBC even when it is driving me to distraction in some areas.

Agree Alegrias1

Sorry you feel the need to shame gransnet members who form a different opinion to you Alegrias1. Now that seems childish in the extreme! I didn’t feel shamed in the least just concerned at the level of anger you live with. Very bad for your health I would think.

Yeah, I'm a hard-hearted old crone. Self confessed.

It is high time our ‘State Broadcaster’ was held to account for the poor quality of it’s ‘journalism’. Some of us have been aware of it for years but we are usually shouted down

I’m saddened, but not surprised, that the Harry Haters of Gransnet are using this thread to spread lies and rumours once again.

William has proven his worth to the British people

Really, what as? Posh bloke with a nice wife who does some charity work?

I don't mind William at all, seems like a nice chap.

I don't have any siblings so I don't project my sentimental feelings on to people who do.

Guess I'm just a hard-hearted old crone.

(Cue pile-ons )

But what Dodi Fayed's ethnicity have to do with it? Why did he mention it and would he have done so if his wife wasn't mixed race? I very much doubt it.

We are staying in an Airbnb and watched newsnight for the first time in ages (patchy internet but fancy tv).

It was suggested that a number of Bashir’s “scoops” need to be investigated. It seemed to be common knowledge that he got what he wanted by fair means or foul. Anyone trying to advise the BBC authorities would be sidelined or sacked.

Sorry you feel the need to shame gransnet members who form a different opinion to you Alegrias1. Now that seems childish in the extreme! I didn’t feel shamed in the least just concerned at the level of anger you live with. Very bad for your health I would think.

William came across as deeply sincere and equally heartbroken, but waited for the official report to be made public. He words were heartfelt and very thoughtful so give strength to whatever is decided about the future, or lack of future, for the BBC and senior management, who appear to have been running a culture of cover ups and bullying.

Alegrias1

Rosie51

Alegrias1 So my reference to Saint William is intended to shame those GNers who can't see that both of Diana's children were damaged by her treatment at the hands of the press

Ah I see! You shame one lot of people by being nasty about someone innocent in the matter. Thanks, I didn't realise that was the way to be fair and reasonable........

Where are the rules about being fair and reasonable? Not seen much of that on GN Royal threads.

Nasty - we're not 3 years old .

The use of 'Saint William' is a put down to William, hence why trisher loved it. Not sure what you mean by not being 3 years old? In any case I don't think you justify being against unfairness by being unfair, but then that's my logic.

As I've posted Alegrias focus any anger you have on the person whose making these ridiculous statements rather than those who want to comment on them.

There is no myth; Harry only ever talks about himself. He's been doing it consistently for months.

You don't appear to have a problem with Harry saying his mother was "chased to her death" because she was seeing someone who wasn't white, therefore implying it was racially motivated, which is the constant cry we hear when it comes to any criticism of his wife, who is criticised because of her behaviour, not because of the colour of her skin.

Harry’s statement is printed above.

His comment about his mother’s death at a time when she was in a relationship with Dodi Fayed was made in the Apple TV interview about mental health. I’ve read a summary of that interview. I’ll be interested to see if the attacks on his personality seen so often on here continue.

Alegrias1

Yes, it was necessary. The way people refer to Harry and Meghan on here is despicable. And William and Catherine are lauded as paragons of everything that should be praised in Royals. So my reference to Saint William is intended to shame those GNers who can't see that both of Diana's children were damaged by her treatment at the hands of the press and that the secular sanctification of one of those brothers, and the demonisation of the other, is grossly unfair.

I feel for them both and the sooner we get rid of this outdated worship of the "right kind" of royal, the better.

Easier just to say Saint William.

I think all on here appreciate what it did to both those boys. William has proven his worth to the British people, has remained dignified through all the victim hood of his baby brother, put yourself in his shoes. How would you react if a sibling of yours demeaned and lambasted your family, in public, when H&M said they left the UK for privacy, ha ha, well they’ve done that well haven’t they. William has no recourse to answering back , but hopefully and carefully, has done in private. Though I guess Harry will spill that sooner or later.

Polarbear2 yes she told her truth, there is the truth and her truth is there not.

Smileless2012

I am not "making stuff up" Alegrias. I am referring to the quote in Gannygangan's post @ 9.10 and the link she provided in which Harry said this.

Rather than constantly having a go a posters who give their opinion on what Harry says focus your outrage on the fact that he says it in the first place.

Yes, Annie that is what he appears to be doing isn't it.

It wasn't in his statement. By implying it was, by linking William's statement to this comment, you are feeding the myth that Harry only ever talks about Harry and his own wife, even in statements about his mother's treatment at the hands of the press.

So, either you were doing that on purpose, or you hadn't taken time to find out what Harry's statement really said.

QED.

trisher, Polarbear2 ?

I never had much time for Diana while she was alive, I thought she was a silly girl, but as we learn more about the background I have a more rounded view, I think.

I'm certainly not holding grudges 25 years on, as some appear to be.

I am not "making stuff up" Alegrias. I am referring to the quote in Gannygangan's post @ 9.10 and the link she provided in which Harry said this.

Rather than constantly having a go a posters who give their opinion on what Harry says focus your outrage on the fact that he says it in the first place.

Yes, Annie that is what he appears to be doing isn't it.

Alegrias1 ???. Agree with all you’ve said above. She still told her truth didn’t she? The RF are still to blame for how she was treated. (And I didn’t particularly warm to her. Thought she was raised up too far by a lot of people.

I wonder how many people watched the interview? I didn't. This obsession with the RF is fed by the media but if no one gave a fig about what they got up to it would never happen. The media provides what the public wants and they use underhand and sometimes even illegal methods to get the information they need. They tap phones, they go through bins, they fake evidence, they 've done it with other people why should the RF be different?
As for the Saint William remark-love it! Alegrias1 thanks
I now have a picture of Harry in a red devil's costume with William wearing a white nightie, wings and a halo

Thank you Gannygangan so Harry was comparing Diana and Dodi Fayed with Megan and himself .

Rosie51

Alegrias1 So my reference to Saint William is intended to shame those GNers who can't see that both of Diana's children were damaged by her treatment at the hands of the press

Ah I see! You shame one lot of people by being nasty about someone innocent in the matter. Thanks, I didn't realise that was the way to be fair and reasonable........

Where are the rules about being fair and reasonable? Not seen much of that on GN Royal threads.

Nasty - we're not 3 years old .

Smileless2012

William's statement was powerful and moving. I don't know why Harry had to mention the fact that their mother was in a relationship with someone "who wasn't white" when she was "chased to her death".

It's totally irrelevant and IMO wouldn't have been mentioned by him if not for the fact that his wife is mixed race. The poor woman would have been hounded regardless of the colour of any man she was having a relationship with.

I don't know why Harry had to mention the fact that their mother was in a relationship with someone "who wasn't white" when she was "chased to her death".

He didn't. You're making stuff up. Read the statement.

(Again. I might apply to be in H's press office.)

Gannygangan

*Alegrias1 *

Oh I see. Yes, quite right. Harry's BBC comment didn't mention anything about relationships.

But last night, on Apple TV, the mental health documentary was aired which is where he goes into quite a lot of detail about his mother's death.

Yes indeed. The mental health documentary series where he is joined by several celebrities talking about mental health. Shall we have a go at Glenn Close now? No, didn't think so.

Pre-1994 before H's death, he would never watch BBC on principle because he said it was a " leftie " channel run by rogues. He was right all those years ago.

William's statement was powerful and moving. I don't know why Harry had to mention the fact that their mother was in a relationship with someone "who wasn't white" when she was "chased to her death".

It's totally irrelevant and IMO wouldn't have been mentioned by him if not for the fact that his wife is mixed race. The poor woman would have been hounded regardless of the colour of any man she was having a relationship with.

Certainly the deceit and the bank statements were despicable, and the reporter should have been dismissed as soon as it came`to light.

But IMO Diana was ready to tell her story to somebody. She did not shrink from publicity and if it hadn't been this it would have been something else sooner or later. So I think it's stretching a point to claim that this interview hastened the divorce and led to her death.

Also IMO the RF may be finding that blaming a third party to this extent helps to heal their own rifts. Fair enough if so.