Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

Frankly, no. I just cannot accept he is the most competent person on the Government benches to lead the Country in a time of crisis. That is not be political or prejudiced in my view.

Waffling and incoherent messages are not what is needed from the UK’s Prime Minister.

You are right Whitewave and I should not have let myself be dragged into the argument about the Labour Party on this thread. I just get so irritated sometimes. I will follow the advice of Galaxy in future and try my best to ignore the deflection away from any criticism of Boris Johnson.

galaxy I take your point and will follow your advise.

Shellmis ?

I think there are more than a few obsessional posters on here.

Whitewave, I have been dragged into this before and it taught me a lesson. I have found it best to completely ignore, although sometimes I break my own rulesit is a very common tactic, often used on MN, by those who want to disrupt the conversation.
I think what I feel about Johnson is that he is utterly inadequate, and he knows that. It is not his policies that cause me concern, I disagree with them, but that's different, it is the character of the man.

Eloethan I criticise the power of the unions, grandad43
keeps going on and on about the unions having the power to
destroy the Labour Party , only then do I speak of the damage
the unions have done when they have control of the party.

I have hopes that Starmer will lead the Labour Party to a win
at the next election, grandad43 has already started to criticise him.

In what way

Whitewavemark2, with respect, I believe your above comments in regard to me could also be applied to yourself.

You are being deliberately obtuse grandad=and it doesn’t help your argument

But this thread is about Boris! Duh! Go and start your own fun thread as has been suggested.

I agree Whitewavemark2 with your remarks contained within your post @07:41 today. The non-action by Starmer in the recent Cummings crisis and the alleged fraudulent and other illegal activities of the right wing faction within the Labour party are "of the headline".

Therefore I believe those matters should be discussed within this thread especially when those with well demonstrated political allegiances to those persons and faction refuse to condemn their actions.

Therefore I will continue to post my opinions in this thread or any other thread that I consider linked to the topic.

grandad I’m reading it as is everyone else who does because of the headline. It’s about past and present prime ministers, but you insist on banging on with your Obsessive hate of Starmer. If you want to discuss the issue it is obvious what you must do.

Why oh why don’t you start your own? Do you have an inbuilt problem with doing so?

Furret, the same would apply to you. If you do not like the thread topic or what a forum member posts in that thread the answer is simple.....dont read it.

Give it a rest.

Whitewavemark2, there is a simple answer to your terrible tedious problem, that being if you do not like the thread topic, don't read it.

However, in your case, I suspect that there are some home truths in this thread in regard to no action Starmer and the corrupt fraudulent activities of the right-wing faction in the Parliamentary Labour Party that you do not wish to have placed in front of you Whitewavemark2.

Eloethan try to ignore her. Most people just skip those posts.

Here, here WW2

and honestly it is terribly tedious to continually read the same thing over and over again.

Pot....kettle....black WWM2?

Can I request that annie and grandad take their Obsessional argument Onto a new thread?

There is nothing left to say that anybody reading these threads couldn’t repeat ad nauseam and honestly it is terribly tedious to continually read the same thing over and over again.

If you want to discuss and rubbish the various Labour Party leaders, be honest about it and headline it on a thread. You will get plenty of contributors from GN, you have a built in bias.

As a member of the Labour Party for 50 years anniebach it is astonishing that you continued your membership when you have such a low opinion of it. You continually speak of the so-called winter of discontent and of the Aberfan tragedy, implying that past and present Labour supporters were in some way tarnished by these events. Yet still you retained membership.

Even as this dreadful government, our incompetent prime minister and his embarrassingly squirming and complicit ministers and aides preside over a death rate that shames an island surrounded by sea, your criticism is reserved for the Labour Party and Corbyn.

Tony Blair...enough said...no brainer

And here's Max Hastings again, writing before the last general election …

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

These are the last two paragraphs …

We can scarcely strip the emperor’s clothes from a man who has built a career, or at least a lurid love life, out of strutting without them. The weekend stories of his domestic affairs are only an aperitif for his future as Britain’s leader. I have a hunch that Johnson will come to regret securing the prize for which he has struggled so long, because the experience of the premiership will lay bare his absolute unfitness for it.

If the Johnson family had stuck to showbusiness like the Osmonds, Marx Brothers or von Trapp family, the world would be a better place. Yet the Tories, in their terror, have elevated a cavorting charlatan to the steps of Downing Street, and they should expect to pay a full forfeit when voters get the message. If the price of Johnson proves to be Corbyn, blame will rest with the Conservative party, which is about to foist a tasteless joke upon the British people – who will not find it funny for long.

Continued …

This is what Max Hastings had to say about Johnson in 2012:

(to be continued)

Any gender guilty of hypocrisy are open to justified comment and ridcule.