Will he resign 2

Point taken Whitehaven. We will have to agree to disagree.

Hancock has really gone down in my estimation. I always thought he was over-promoted, but he didn't seem like a megalomaniac. He's lied in the past, but that's always seemed because he genuinely wanted things to happen and possibly hoped something would work out. He's obviously ambitious, but if I were him, I'd take a big step back here and think of the long-term. People would have more respect for him if he showed more integrity - on the other hand, maybe he looks at Patel, Cummings, Shapps, Williamson, the Trump mob … - and wonders whether there's any point even trying to be honourable.

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ohn Crace
@JohnJCrace
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Back in the 70s, I used to go on 60 mile round trips to see if I was too stoned to drive

Hello Elliegran, I think you’re brave to speak up on this emotive topic and I’m glad you felt able to do so.

I disagree with your stance, but I’m able to discuss things without getting hot under the collar, so I would be very interested in the reasoning that led you to offer your support to DC and BJ.

I wrote a very long post on the previous page where I pointed out some of the glaring discrepancies in the stories told by Dominic Cummings and his wife and, I thought, I had made it clear why my own understanding took me in a different direction to you. If you feel able to respond to what I wrote I’d like to get your take on where I’ve got the facts wrong, or where perhaps you think I’ve misinterpreted or misunderstood them.

Sorry, forgot to make bold: Elliegran.

So - if people who were fined for travelling during lockdown for child care may be able have their fines decision reversed, will those who locked down, stayed home and struggled through rather than travel for help, be able to claim compensation?

Whitwewave

There are a number of copies of it, but this is one

www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9MUwBEJRwk

Henry Mance
@henrymance
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To protect Dominic Cummings, the government has so far:

- reinterpreted lockdown guidance
- accepted a ministerial resignation
- agreed to review all penalties on families travelling for childcare

There are so many threads now that I can’t remember which is which.Before anyone gets too excited about the prospect of Cummings either resigning or Johnson throwing him to the media wolfpack, my feeling is that nothing will happen and pretty soon the world will move on.The sooner the better.
Meanwhile, thousands will continue on their merry way packing the beaches as they have been happily doing for ages.

Grannyactivist sorry if I spelt this incorrectly. I feel that DC is subject to a media storm. He is being hounded. He had to make decisions when he himself was ill. What would we do for our family when the chips were down. He was instrumental in deciding procedures for flattening the curve.
I know we all did our best to follow the rules which was a wonderful effort and certainly demonstrated the British spirit. Can we not try now to stop the hounding and accept that we all did our bit.

You may not agree with the party line but it is easy to criticise when we are not taking that weight on out shoulders.

Oh for goodness sake Elligran! I'm not sure whether you're being gullible or trying to spread the fairy tales for another reason.

Cummings is being held to account for lying through his teeth and breaking the law.

What childcare issues was he facing when he went into Downing Street when his wife had symptoms?

growstuff thank you

Growstuff he did not break the law. Are you buying in to the media hype. Kuennesberg et all.

I think you are buying into the lies and deceit. Elliegran.

Can you explain how you are able to support a liar?

It seems Varian, that you are doing what always happens on here and painting everyone who doesn't agree with you as suddenly "right-wing". I have never been right-wing in my life and that is not what is setting the parameters for my way of looking at this. In fact, I rather think I have been more left-wing than you have, at times in the past - not that it matters of course but unsubstantiated name-calling certainly does.

Having got the standard name-calling, from some, out of the way I would draw your attention to the vicar who asked if anyone who was fined for travelling to obtain child-care could be reimbursed. Matt Hancock was all in favour of this although he will have to check the details with the Treasury but thinks it would be the right thing to do.

The vicar was then interviewed on Sky. Asked his reasons for asking the question he said he wanted people to have a fair solution. He was then referred back to those people who could not be with loved ones when they died and could not attend funerals. He agreed this was difficult, he had conducted Last Rites over Skype or similar at times and it was awful that they could not attend the funeral but it was not, he said, the same - and I agree. I could not get to my mother's home in February when they rang me - too busy being sick, sadly. But she was somewhere where I know she had care, as were those in care homes and in hospital. That is very different from a child whose parents may not be in a position to provide care for a child.

And yet the media and even people on here wind those who were in this position up to even greater anger than they already feel. I call that wicked to be honest and I don't think this for any of your simplistic and oh so very far of the mark reasons.

Interviewed on Sky later, the

EllanVannin, nobody has to 'build up a hate-fest. The British public aren't all fools - they don't like what he did.

jonathanpie.com

Language is somewhat colourful, but tells it like it is.

For those who do not know this guy he is an actor (Tom Walker) who blogs as a pretend political correspondent (Jonathan Pie) - he is getting ready to do a broadcast, practising what he is required to say, but his real feelings get the better of him.

This link gets you straight to the right one: twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1265324217131839488?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Elliegran Cummings was not ill when he made the decision to take his family 260 miles away to Durham, he merely thought he might get ill, and be incapacitated along with his already presumed infected wife. Well every family with young children could have had the same thoughts, what would have happened with thousands of infected households travelling around the country just "in case" they needed childcare at some point?
And can you really support someone who claims not to be sure if they were up to driving home taking a 60 mile round trip to test if their eyes were too badly affected or the feeling sick was too bad? If true that in itself is a crime. You are not allowed to drive with an uncorrected visual impairment. So if suffering from blurred vision for example, driving is forbidden.

Interviewed by Sky later on

But in any case i5 was all lies to cover for a jolly

The vicars question got kicked nicely into touch by Hancock and had been binned by No 10 (Cummings)

Well the previous Chief Public Prosecutor, Nazir Afzal, has just declared that Cummings did break the law; I am sure he has far more knowledge of the intricacies of law then any one on GN!

Cummings has denied that he was in Wooler in April. As I said a nice little jolly.