Diane Abbott quits the shadow cabinet.

I wasn't wound up. It was a disgrace.

trisher my criticism of Diane Abbott is her support for the
IRA and dismissing it with a comparison with her change of hair style.

Yawn. So who do you like Annie?

Well if you're so determined to see that it's only racism that is being used to criticise DA trisher then there's nothing I, or anyone else can say that will change your mind. But like you, I don't trust or particularly admire Priti Patel either, and for the reasons you've stated too. But does the fact that she is a Tory MP make my dislike of her any more racism based than my dislike of Diane Abbott? They're both black/brown. Both MPs. Both female. And I dislike the ethics of both of them. Why is criticism of ones track record and hypocrisy judged to be racism based and not the other?

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Sorry Chewie my ? ? ? ? Was a reply to a post asking me who
I liked .

That's not what I was saying Chewbacca I said her acheivements required some acknowledgement. First Black woman MP. From a working class background to Cambridge. But some can only see negatives, you have to ask why? I realise some of it may be purely antagonism to the left wing, but something else is also a possibility. Don't others ever examine their prejudices? I know I do.

My post of 20:54. I did wonder how long that one would last ?????

How come?

It contained the word ‘immigrants’!!

Really? that makes no sense at all.

* Really? that makes no sense at all.*

My sentiments entirely!

You've all been winding yourselves up, always do. ?
I really only like to post my opinion, that's it.

It has been suggested that I report racist comments or ones I consider racist can I just say that I never report posts. I prefer to leave the those things for everyone to see.I have been reported and deleted and I really consider it unnecessary,

POGS I was referring to people posting on this thread.

Those that shout the loudest - probably trigger-happy with reporting.

Trisher relax, you don't work for DA.

tickingbird they were dispicable.

Despicable ...excuse spelling.

Yehbutnobut

Apology accepted.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 19:52:40

'POGS minimising the sheer amount of abuse DA received vis-a-via other MPs is just despicable and disgusting.'
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How was I ' minimising ' the amount of abuse Dianne Abbott received by saying :-

"Dianne Abbott has undoubtedly been trolled and suffered awful racist abuse, received the vilest of threats from social media."

The reason for mentioning the same abuse other MP' s receive was actually more connected to the other part of my post :-

" Perversely there are posters who have been extremely nasty occasionally about MP's they dislike, verging on hate but who do not see themselves as perpetrators whilst chastising others.

Couldn't make it up."

In other words posters who dish it out, are abusive about other MP's but b*****k others for doing as they do are hypocrites but of course they will not see that for themselves because they are the ' Do as I say not Do as I do' brigade.

ananimous despicable, despicable, despicable....should really write it out ten times as I did at school but CBA’d.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLZ4CM3wr0U

Diane Abbott and another disasterous interview ? Car crash stuff

POGS criticising an MP (or PM) for what they do or say is acceptable if their words and actions are genuinely and truthfully reported in the press. Too many are prepared to accept anything the media publish as gospel.

Criticising a public figure for their looks, colour, health issues, or worse still deliberately making false statements is despicable (see I have practised my spelling and mastered the word) and probably libellous too. IOW getting personal. Not acceptable.

My last word on the subject as it would be easy to get obsessional.

Diane Abbott...
She’s the biggest asset the Conservative party has to offer

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 23:10:25

'POGS criticising an MP (or PM) for what they do or say is acceptable if their words and actions are genuinely and truthfully reported in the press. Too many are prepared to accept anything the media publish as gospel.'

Of course criticising an MP for what he/she does or say is acceptable. Totally acceptable. Unquestionable.

It is therefore correct to criticise Dianne Abbott for being a hypocrite over her choice of Private education for her own family whilst attacking others for doing the same.

It is correct to criticise Dianne Abbott for defending John Bercow by belittling those who spoke against him, especially as there had been the Dame Laura Cox Inquiry into Bullying and Harrassement and Bercow did not come out of that Inquiry very well did he?

Why not criticise Dianne Abbott because of her history in supporting the IRA.

Why not criticise Dianne Abbott for many other reasons, I could go on.
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'Criticising a public figure for their looks, colour, health issues, or worse still deliberately making false statements is despicable (see I have practised my spelling and mastered the word) and probably libellous too. IOW getting personal. Not acceptable.'

It is most certainly not correct to attack public figures for their looks, colour, health issues and deliberately making false statements. I wholeheartedly agree.

But what I cannot abide is those who tell others that is pathetic, playing the man/woman not the ball, whilst they can be the biggest offenders.

If you or any other poster can find where I have spoken of colour, race, personal looks, health issues etc in a derogatory manner I will apologise. Actually I did do it once years ago re Corbyns cap and I apologised on the thread for doing so.

I will give an example.

I looked at just one thread running currently for Priti Patel and do you think these posts are criticising her for her actions or for her looks and character:-

suziewoozie Ed Sat 22-Feb-20 17:35:04

Can I complain about her permanent self satisfied smirk? Oh and complete stupidity? TIA
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jura2 Sun 23-Feb-20 22:07:58
oh what can but dream. PermaSmirk out.
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suziewoozie Sun 23-Feb-20 22:28:51
The main problem with Priti is she’s just not very bright ( and a nasty piece of work).
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NotSpaghetti Mon 24-Feb-20 09:10:56
I hope she does go.
She's nasty and not very bright in my opinion