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Diane Abbott quits the shadow cabinet.

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Urmstongran Sun 23-Feb-20 23:10:50

She’s stepping down, no matter who is selected as the next leader of the Labour Party.

I think it’s a vote catcher quite honestly.

Sparklefizz Mon 24-Feb-20 12:15:38

suziewoozie Your comment It wouldn’t hurt to just back off ....

I can never understand how you can want to stop people having a discussion on here and insinuate that they are being cruel when they criticise someone .... yet be very rude yourself to other GNrs. I keep trying to stay off threads where you post but you are hard to avoid.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:15:40

Yes a lot of the abuse she received referred to her weight, her colour and her sex and then went to say things that are truly truly awful.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:19:16

Sparkle I just don’t see why people want a pile on with DA now. By rude you mean I don’t suffer fools gladly - and your post is so well mannered isn’t it! In response I’ll say that I haven’t noticed your absence on any threads I’m on and I doubt any absence has been a loss.

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:05

I think the moral high ground must go to those who try to defend the abused who cannot answer back for themselves, rather than those who always see the worst in people.

People, who incidentally, they only ‘know’ through the filter of the media.

Sparklefizz Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:13

suziewoozie ^ In response I’ll say that I haven’t noticed your absence on any threads I’m on and I doubt any absence has been a loss.^

Thank you so much for proving my point! What a sweet person you are.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:21

jan I see now what you meant - my post about wondering didn’t refer to the photoshopping of the drink - i posted mine before anamin posted hers. Mine was a general statement wondering about why people needed this nasty outlet

Pumpkinpie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:54

I like Diane Abbott , she’s a woman of principle a rare thing for an MP .
I think the racist and very offensive targeted attacks on her by the press , media etc have been horrific but still she has continued to work hard for her constituents and her beliefs. I respect that strength.
I actually find the condescending tone of the posters opening comment offensive

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:25:48

I just don’t care Sparkle you can think what you want of me - it’s completely irrelevant in my world. And you’ve given a perfect example of what you and others whinge about. Well done.

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 12:26:01

Can she count, though?

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 12:31:21

That’s the most puerile comment on a pretty low level thread. Congratulations ?

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 12:34:14

A woman of principle????

I just spat my tea out laughing! TY

EllanVannin Mon 24-Feb-20 12:39:04

Are you a grannie, suziewoozie ? Or even elderly ?

pinkquartz Mon 24-Feb-20 12:40:05

grandad1943
Drawn from my 1950's childhood:
I can only think you did not grow up in London.
I did and we had a enough black children at primary school that it I don't remember how many. only that my brother had a friend who was black and it was not a problem to anyone.
It was unusual but that doesn't mean we all racist thank you.
certainly not my mother.
Also we saw houses being painted in bright colours and thought that those people looked more interesting than most.

Diane Abbott I remember seeing her give a talk to black teens at a college in London and I was shocked. She seemed to be anti white.
She was angry with the way black people were treated and she shared this with her young audience.
I had no time for her after that as I considered that if she had been white and speaking that way against black people instead of vice versa she would have been arrested or at least banned.
I do not like her and do not know anyone who does.
It is a good thing for the LP that she leaves.
i think she has fueled racism not fought it.

growstuff Mon 24-Feb-20 12:45:07

Yehbutnonut Some people claim to have reversed T2 diabetes, but they haven't. What they have done is changed their lifestyle, so that the condition is well-managed without medication. If the person were to return to normal eating and exercise, the condition would return. It is not reversed.

I have had T2 diabetes for over 30 years. I'm not, and never have been, obese, nor have I ever pigged out on junk food. Nobody really knows why I developed it. I have taken part in a number of studies and my condition is well-managed, but it will never be reversed. If I eat a piece of cake, my blood sugar goes through the roof. Eventually, the level will come down, but if I were to eat more than one piece of cake (or sweets, etc) more than once in a blue moon, I'd be in trouble. I haven't eaten bread, pasta, potatoes, pastry, rice or most fruit for years, but my condition is still deteriorating. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to walk, I have permanent pain in my hands and feet, I'm often debilitatingly tired and my eyes need to be checked every three months because I'll very probably go blind.

growstuff Mon 24-Feb-20 12:46:54

JenniferEccles T1 diabetes is not more serious than T2 and you are continuing to show your ignorance.

growstuff Mon 24-Feb-20 12:48:53

Tom Watson has lost weight and changed his lifestyle, but if he were to put the weight back on and stop exercising, the diabetes would return. He has not reversed it to the same state as somebody who has never been diabetic.

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 12:49:22

Diane Abbott helped slum housing continue by not voting down the 2016 Housing Bill...

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 12:52:19

Diane wants Jeremy, John, and Kier to step down, too, thus giving Labour a twelvty-five-forths boost in the next GE.

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 12:53:06

Seems legit...

trisher Mon 24-Feb-20 12:57:45

ananimous could you please explain how one MP could have 'voted down' a government bill?

redmoffat Mon 24-Feb-20 12:59:23

yes, I think you are right

growstuff Mon 24-Feb-20 13:00:29

Yehbutnobut www.nhs.uk/news/diabetes/more-people-need-know-type-2-diabetes-reversible-argues-report/

pinkquartz Mon 24-Feb-20 13:00:54

grandad1943

I have realised that I am not as old as you so I am talking about the late 1950's and the early 1960's.

But growing up in London we always had some diversity and I am glad because I never expected all English people to be white.

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 13:01:53

Diane Abbott wants to rebrand Labour... starting with replacing their current logo with an albatross.

JenniferEccles Mon 24-Feb-20 13:02:37

After reading your post detailing your sad situation with diabetes ‘growstuff’ it’s clear you have had to be very knowledgeable about it.

It seems I was mistaken in my thinking. Type 2 is often described as being self inflicted in that it often affects the overweight, as against type 1 which I think has nothing to do with weight and is usually diagnosed from childhood.

I hope your health doesn’t deteriorate any more. It must be very worrying.