Censorship / Restrictions of freedom of the press

No, just checked him out and I've gone off him.
Definitely son of Doris

As you were, rosecarmel!

He is a bit irritating though!
But probably very nice.

Poor Owen

I shouldn't be laughing, rosecarmel but I am

(And coughing again!!)

I didn’t see any sign of ‘petulance’ when she ripped up the speech. She looked calm, cool and disgusted, but not petulant.

Nope .. They're the ones being manipulated ..

Nobody here realises how you are the ones being manipulated.

Tearing up his speech wasn't unjust, it wasn't dishonest- What occurred was shared disgust between two people with different politics-

I knew the national debt had rocketed under the Tories, but had no idea it was 84% of GDP.

The £130bn that Brexit is forecast to cost us in the next decade or so is good news then ?

Facts about the dire state of the economy under the tories? Nah, still got to be Labour's fault/worse if Labour were in government/only a blip/it's the global economy that's the problem, and any other statement on the right wing bingo card - anything rather than admit that the Conservative party do not have the first clue how to run the finances of the country.

84% of GDP?

And I also understand that, in 90 minutes of bragging about how wonderful he is, he never once mentioned climate change.

So why excuse the person who thinks he is the leader of the free world. Shouldn't he be held to a higher standard? As it is much of his world view, and his view of other people, is in the gutter.

I do agree that he should have shaken her hand but it was very childish of her to rip up his speech.

Two wrongs etc...

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was told that, prior to Pelosi's 'petulant display' [of ripping up a load of exaggerations and lies] followed on from her offering her hand for Trump to shake and him totally ignoring her.

Remember when the national debt was a big thing, when it was used on every news bulletin to attack the Labour party and public spending? How come it is NEVER mentioned now and it is more than double the size even after austerity? #BBCbias #MediaCrisis #Framing #Democracyisdead

@JamesMelville

The UK’s national debt has now gone past £2 trillion (£2.17 trillion). The national debt has more than doubled since the Tories came into power in 2010. In 2007, the national debt was 37% of GDP and by 2019 it has rapidly risen to 84% of GDP.
thenational.scot/news/17537879.has-no-one-noticed-the-uk-national-debt-has-topped-2-trillion/

Whereas Trump’s behaviour has been impeccable all the way through.

I’d go so far as to say she hasn’t turned anyone onto Trump who didn’t already vote for him.

Pelosi did herself no favours with her petulant display there. In fact I’d go so far as to say she’s probably handed the Republicans a swathe of extra votes in the election.

Biden tanked in Utah didn’t he?

"In response to her classless outburst, I've decided to introduce a resolution to censure & condemn Speaker Pelosi," the Arizona Republican tweeted Wednesday. "In a new low, she violated the Code of Official Conduct requiring Members 'behave at all times in a manner that shall reflect creditably on the House.'"

I’m really not understanding the link between our government trying to exclude certain section of the press and the gossip rags laying into Meghan (& to a lesser extent Harry).

I don’t care whether Meghan rubs her bump (although interestingly she was also slaughtered for wearing a sleeveless dress & of course not wearing a hat) but I do want the government challenged as they steer us through troubled times.

It's interesting that this has happened just after all the criticism of the MSM (including here on GN) of press intrusion eg in the case of Meghan and Harry.

There seems to be a dichotomy of what should be acceptable and what is not.

If all sides are not invited to publish we can't form a balanced opinion.

The President peddled lies, bigotry, psychological warfare, prejudice, religious divisiveness and so much more during his State of the Union Address last night .. under the guise of this is the way he made America great- Not great again, mind you- That's old news- But because he is in office- And because he is in office, America is at its greatest historically-

He's influencing leaders and citizens around the globe with lies and financial, promissory strategies-

Speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi tore up her printed copy of his speech- She called it a manifesto of mistruths - She isn't being censored for saying so-

We've yet to have gotten to the point where the press wouldn't report accordingly- But it could be where we are headed?

My disabled son’s life was far better under Labour so I would be quite happy for them to win (& I’m a Lib Dem).

But that is all irrelevant to the fact that our Home Secretary appears to not understand basic terminology that is relevant to her job.

Whataboutery added nothing to the discussion at all. Pritti Patel was criticised for appearing to be ignorant of the meaning of something closely connected with her job as a government minister.

Ug countered with some whataboutery about RLB, not in government office using a word which, it turns out, was pretty much the term used by medical professionals to describe the state of the person she was referring to. She offended a snowflake or two but she didn't make a major vocabulary error.

No equivalence or useful addition whatsoever.

I’m sure you did