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And What Do You Do? Book about the Royal Family by Norman Baker

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Grany Thu 26-Dec-19 12:25:27

Shedding new light
A few of the comments

Unputdownable.
Every pro-royalist argument is neatly demolished. It shows us what the monarchy really is about: free-loaders; parasites; freebie holidays lovers; hypocrites of the highest order, including the Queen, who by the way has shares in Brighthouse; a firm that exploits the poor in society; the myth that they bring in 'loads of money' proves to be just that, a myth peddled by the Firm.
In fact the annual third of a billion pounds allocated to them (not including security costs which are kept secret-why is that?!) should be rerouted to the ailing NHS, not to the Queen, who is fabuously wealthy. Even their wills remain secret (again-why?)
As head of state she is useless. The institution is undemocratic and riddled with corruption. How can one respect such a family?

They have no place in 21th century Britain

This is a carefully researched exposure of the greed, the cynicism and the general uselessness of Britain’s royalty. It’s quite jaw dropping to read how the British state panders to them, using every mechanism in their armoury to protect and indeed expand the grotesque privilege they enjoy. Norman Baker also exposes the humbug of royals like Prince Charles and his sons who never miss a chance to leap into a chartered jet to swan around the world. His account of the current life of Prince Andrew is partially entertaining; partially enraging. Well worth the 5 stars

Just started this. Should be mandatory for everyone to read it. I know generally what is being said, but the actual facts are amazing ... and we still haven’t moved away from having a royal family, living in absolute luxury, doing very little and expecting us to pay for it all!
Plus we must tug our fore locks, and bow and curtesy.
Eventually it will happen. In our grandchildren’s time?!

merlotgran Mon 06-Jan-20 10:35:41

I thought the taxpayer contributed a couple of £million.

eazybee Mon 06-Jan-20 10:52:55

I don't think the taxpayers did contribute; I believe all the money came from the Sovereign Grant and the Sussexes themselves.
Just a pity they can't be bothered to live in it.

Jabberwok Mon 06-Jan-20 13:00:38

You're right eazybee ! Apparently that is how these refurbishments were paid for! As you say, pity they can't live there! They clearly have money to burn!!!!

Callistemon Mon 06-Jan-20 13:07:56

Are they away?
We could go and squat and have a Gransnetters Grand Party!

Anniebach Mon 06-Jan-20 13:12:54

They are having a six week break, must have been exhausting
visiting S.A. And they are struggling emotionally, no one asked Megan if she was ok when pregnant and Harry is distressed by criticism. Sensitive souls .

pinkquartz Mon 06-Jan-20 16:29:00

we do pay loads just on security. many millions of £......I hope it stops and they the H&M stay away from UK
people were posting here saying she would do this. they were right.
M only wants to be Royal enough to take money and privilege.

Jabberwok Mon 06-Jan-20 16:37:14

Unfortunately it seems that way! Hopefully they'll stay away and pay for their own ### security!
A party?!! I'm up for that!!

Anniebach Mon 06-Jan-20 17:11:34

Their security team must be happy bunnies , six weeks in
Canada .

merlotgran Mon 06-Jan-20 17:17:30

Apparently they want to take on more work in Canada and have more trips there.

Isn't that what they said about Africa until they pissed everyone off used the tour to promote themselves?

And a second baby is not on the cards hmm due to their packed schedule. grin grin grin grin

Anniebach Mon 06-Jan-20 17:38:09

Why don’t they stay there, couldn’t he be the British ambassador?

Jabberwok Mon 06-Jan-20 17:45:03

What about Meghan? For someone who likes being in the forefront, I'm not sure she'd want to be an Ambassadors wife walking two steps behind her hubby!!!!

Anniebach Mon 06-Jan-20 17:56:52

Didn’t think of that Jabber.

ok, she could be the ambassador and he can walk behind her.

Yes ?

Jabberwok Mon 06-Jan-20 20:51:28

????

NotTooOld Mon 06-Jan-20 22:48:28

Every time I see moody M I'm reminded of Wallis Simpson. And we all know how that ended.

Anniebach, you make me laugh. A turkey baster? Are you kidding?!!!

merlotgran Tue 07-Jan-20 16:42:10

H&M do like to have everyone scratching their heads.

Although their six week stay in a luxury waterfront mansion was a strictly private affair, they felt the need to thank the Canadian High Commissioner for the hospitality. As this was obviously a public occasion it had to be announced by Buckingham Palace.

I hope they've remembered to thank the mystery multi-millionaire who owned the house and no doubt didn't charge them a penny. hmm

Anniebach Tue 07-Jan-20 17:05:45

I don’t recall them visiting ANYONE to thank for the hospitality they received in S.A.

varian Tue 07-Jan-20 17:06:57

One of the disadvantages of having a RF in the UK is the way they have led a hierarchical social structure where private schools are a big factor.

What a difference it could have made if Charles and Diana had followed the example of other modern European Royals and sent their children to state schools.

Sadly it seems that William and Kate do not seem to be modernisers at least in this respect.

Anniebach Tue 07-Jan-20 17:08:09

NotToOld the turkey baster claims were made in a book by
the American Kitty Kelley

Anniebach Tue 07-Jan-20 17:10:45

I would not want my children to attend a state school attended by children of a heir to the throne, all that security,
all the security checks , nightmare for the staff and parents,

pinkquartz Tue 07-Jan-20 21:18:06

I do wish they would emigrate and stay away. I liked not seeing her smirky face when I look at the news online.

Everytime their insincerity is outstanding: pretending to care about sections of the poor while living the most luxurious life possible.
Go away please.....

Anniebach Tue 07-Jan-20 21:32:27

I wish they would

merlotgran Tue 07-Jan-20 21:46:49

It looks like they're flogging themselves to any country that will have them because they are disillusioned with UK.

They were enthusing about SA then blew it at the end of the tour. They've probably done the same again because it was supposed to be a holiday where privacy was paramount yet they couldn't leave without the glare of publicity.

They can't turn their backs on the UK completely because they'd have to fund themselves but I wouldn't mind betting they're hoping to split their time between here and AN Other - just so long as they can find a way of somebody else paying for it.

Anniebach Tue 07-Jan-20 21:55:44

I agree merlot

pinkquartz Wed 08-Jan-20 15:48:14

also I notice her face has slightly changed. No doubt she has been to see her fav face people in Canada....whatever you call people who fill your face with fillers etc.
I notice as an ex photographer that the planes of her face have changed in the new pics.

Jabberwok Wed 08-Jan-20 16:22:18

Tbh, I think poor, slightly dim Harry simply doesn't see the irony of their life style and their supposed connection with the poor, climate change and a host of other worthy causes! I think Meghan sees it perfectly well and uses them and him for her own promotion !! Yes, they'd be better living abroad, America? less embarrassing for the RF! and us come to that!!
I agree about the state school! A security mans nightmare!