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And What Do You Do? Book about the Royal Family by Norman Baker

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Grany Thu 26-Dec-19 12:25:27

Shedding new light
A few of the comments

Unputdownable.
Every pro-royalist argument is neatly demolished. It shows us what the monarchy really is about: free-loaders; parasites; freebie holidays lovers; hypocrites of the highest order, including the Queen, who by the way has shares in Brighthouse; a firm that exploits the poor in society; the myth that they bring in 'loads of money' proves to be just that, a myth peddled by the Firm.
In fact the annual third of a billion pounds allocated to them (not including security costs which are kept secret-why is that?!) should be rerouted to the ailing NHS, not to the Queen, who is fabuously wealthy. Even their wills remain secret (again-why?)
As head of state she is useless. The institution is undemocratic and riddled with corruption. How can one respect such a family?

They have no place in 21th century Britain

This is a carefully researched exposure of the greed, the cynicism and the general uselessness of Britain’s royalty. It’s quite jaw dropping to read how the British state panders to them, using every mechanism in their armoury to protect and indeed expand the grotesque privilege they enjoy. Norman Baker also exposes the humbug of royals like Prince Charles and his sons who never miss a chance to leap into a chartered jet to swan around the world. His account of the current life of Prince Andrew is partially entertaining; partially enraging. Well worth the 5 stars

Just started this. Should be mandatory for everyone to read it. I know generally what is being said, but the actual facts are amazing ... and we still haven’t moved away from having a royal family, living in absolute luxury, doing very little and expecting us to pay for it all!
Plus we must tug our fore locks, and bow and curtesy.
Eventually it will happen. In our grandchildren’s time?!

NotTooOld Tue 31-Dec-19 15:28:09

I have just finished reading this book on my kindle. It is interesting in a gossipy sort of way but does rather drift into being just a rant against the royals. I learned stuff I did not know before, such as the grey area that exists between what is private property of the Windsors and what is public property and I was shocked at the royals' frequent use of planes and helicopters when they could easily take cheaper public transport. However, the author does use some dubious sources, such as the books of Kitty Kelley, the American author, and the tabloid press. I'm sure a lot of what he writes is true and to be deplored but, equally, I reckon some of it should be taken with a pinch of sale.

Anniebach Tue 31-Dec-19 15:43:56

Kitty Kelley informed the world - the queen mothers pregnancies were achieved with the aid of a turkey baster!

pinkquartz Tue 31-Dec-19 23:05:14

thanks Anniebach I wondered why he was involved with Tibet.
He seems to have very disparate interests.
I don't have any real impression of him but I am curious about Tibet itself.

oldgimmer1 Sun 05-Jan-20 08:55:32

I'm half way through.

It's an absolute gem.

Grany Sun 05-Jan-20 10:15:14

Yes it's good I am reading it too.

Tax payer pays for travel which costs a fortune and for their security.

Freebies

The cost to tax payers for upgrade of Buckingham Palace £359 million the Queen one of the richest people in the country contributes nothing.
Meanwhile the palace continues to pocket the lucrative stream of entrance fees to the building, to other royal palaces and to the royal collection.
Total admissions income for the various buildings reached £181 million over the five years to 2017.

It is theirs when it is an income stream it is ours when it needs to be repaired.

jura2 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:12:15

Not read the book. I remember HRH at a tea party asking an elderly Jamaican gentleman 'and where do you come from?' and he replied with the broadest Brum accent 'Birmingham Mam' and the side of her mouth lifted a bit and her eyes lit up - priceless.

annep1 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:21:46

Disgusting Grany. Not sure I could handle reading it.

merlotgran Sun 05-Jan-20 11:24:17

I'm half way through the book as well.

It's an eye-opener.

Anniebach Sun 05-Jan-20 11:33:33

Entrance fees do not go to private residences.

Buck House is a very, very large council house as is Windsor Castle and Kensington Palace but rent free . Suppose the same as tied houses, they go with the job.

quizqueen Sun 05-Jan-20 11:40:11

I'm happy to continue to have the status of a royal family in this country because I do think they bring something to this country in terms of history but to only fund the direct heirs and no one else, and only one official residence i.e. Buckingham Palace. So everyone from Charlotte downwards on the list of succession needs to fund themselves as adults. That will please Meghan, who can go back to her B acting roles and her fake charity eco pretentiouness!

merlotgran Sun 05-Jan-20 11:44:02

It's high time Harry returned to the so called 'job' for which he is so handsomely paid. His six week jolly must surely be coming to an end?

Anniebach Sun 05-Jan-20 11:50:27

The queen has two official residences. Charles has one, William has one. What is so wrong is the apartments in
St.James Palace. And Harry turning down a large apartment in Kensington Palace to live out of London then having an
apartment in Buck House when they are in London.

annep1 Sun 05-Jan-20 13:16:30

Anniebach you do make me laugh.

NotTooOld Sun 05-Jan-20 14:08:01

Anniebach is right about Harry's Ken Pal apartment which we paid to have done up for him. Then he (or was it M?) decides they don't like it and we pay for another place to be done up.

Jabberwok Sun 05-Jan-20 14:25:41

Harry and Meghan( ?!!) apparently didn't want to live next door to William and family so decided not to take up occupancy in Kensington Palace!!!
The Queen paid for Frogmore out of the privy purse,money that is allotted to her. I can think of better ways of spending her allowance,but I suppose it was up to her!!

Anniebach Sun 05-Jan-20 14:44:19

Kensington Palace isn’t a block of council flats, living next door doesn’t mean having to ask neighbours to turn the tv down.

Jabberwok Sun 05-Jan-20 15:32:32

I know Annie! That's why its seems so peculiar! I suppose H and/or perhaps M (?!) didn't want to be in the same vicinity as the in laws!

endlessstrife Sun 05-Jan-20 15:44:10

I wouldn’t be them for all the money on earth. Watching “ The Crown”, has cast away any delusions on that score.

merlotgran Sun 05-Jan-20 16:47:49

I suppose because the Queen gave William and Kate Amner Hall as their country retreat, she wanted to do the same for H&M but it begs the question, who is going to take up residence in the KP apartment once the Gloucesters move out?

Millions are spent on these residences. hmm

merlotgran Sun 05-Jan-20 16:50:24

Eugenie and her husband are also living at Kensington Palace in one of the so called cottages. Shouldn't they be buying their own home? Eugenie is a minor royal who married a commoner.

grannymy Sun 05-Jan-20 17:05:46

I'm not a Royalist, but do think the Queen has done a grand job and I like the young Royals. We will never have the money, pomp and circumstance that they have, but who wants to live in a goldfish bowl anyway?

merlotgran Sun 05-Jan-20 17:08:57

William and Kate will have a lot on their shoulders when the Queen dies. Charles and Camilla are no spring chickens and Harry is proving to be no support at all.

I hope they are enjoying every family moment they can while the going's good.

Anniebach Sun 05-Jan-20 17:09:03

The Queen owns Amner Hall, she doesn’t own Frogmore,

They should have stayed in Kensington Palace, they were hardly going to meet getting in the morning milk.

I thought Eugenie’s husband was wealthy, even if not it’s wrong they are living in Kensington Palace.

Difficult being a Grannie though.

Grany Mon 06-Jan-20 09:36:16

The Royals are coining it in from every direction plus freebies and free holidays and travel expenses and security.
The firm are have loads of money.

@SkyNews
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have trademarked their brand "Sussex Royal", prompting speculation they may roll out branded products

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-duchess-of-sussex-harry-and-meghan-trademark-their-brand-sussex-royal-11896586?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

@Caeso_K

It's standard practice for the foundations. The Cambridges registered theirs in June within days of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, and yet, no mention by the British press. Beware the spin.

twitter.com/Caeso_K/status/1211271039784632321?s=20

Jabberwok Mon 06-Jan-20 10:31:20

You're right, Frogmore is part of the Crown Estate. However, the Queen did pay for the repairs out of the sovereign grant. Generous Granny!!!