Considering voting Labour?

I have a job which involves using taxis. My regular driver tells me he works 7 days a week, to put food on the table and the family is struggling to afford shoes for the children.

Did it not occur to you GrannyGravy13 that those taxi drivers on hearing your "southern accent" and looking for a good renumeration tip may have been telling you exactly what they felt you would wish to here. ?

I have always found that London taxi drivers especially are very accomplished in that respect.

Starmer has been all over breakfast news channels "3 months to negotiate a better deal will be easy" and "a referendum within 6 months", but no actual "facts"!!!!

Have you any idea how ironic this sounds, GG13 when Leavers are usually completely dismissive of 'facts'.

What I find horrifying is that we could end up with Diane Abbot as Home Secretary!!!!!!

Perhaps you'd like to tell us a few facts about why you think Abbott would be a poor Home Secretary rather than just posting slightly hysterical nothings.

I expect taxi drivers love being called “the natives”, and Edinburgh is not typical of the rest of Scotland, any more than London taxi drivers are reorientation of anyone in the rest of the country. Most of “the natives” I meet in Argyll are in favour of independence- what does that prove?

Representative not reorientation in above

Nice try MaizieD, I am not hysterical with regards to Diane Abbott, I have watched enough of her TV interviews to have made an informed decision.

There are enough available on UTube if you would like to see for yourself.

No porkies from me, I just saw a clip with Starmer saying how easy a deal would be, and quick apparently

Which, unlike you, he evidenced. Yours posts are still the same old same old prejudice.

I have also heard individual LP MP’s saying what they would like.

But that is exactly what the Tories did. Each voted how they believed to be best for the country. Why is this now a bad thing? We know the Brexit fault line does not lie on party lines. That fact has destroyed yet another Tory government so why the gasps of disbelief?

And.......they said just the other day, that they won’t say which way they campaign ( in a new referendum) until they are in power.So, they may negotiate another deal and then in a referendum, campaign to Remain.

They may. But again how does that differ from a Tory government backing remain and other Tories leading the "leave" campaign?

So WWM2 before you accuse me of lying I suggest you check your own facts.

It seems the facts on Labour policy are readily available lemongrove and that what is actually the problem is your inability or prejudice when it comes to recognising them.

Chrystaltips "natives" was used "tongue in cheek" - I like to think that I still have a sense of humour, even on the political threads

Well I was a single mum of three and very poor for most of my life and worked all my life. I managed to buy a small cottage over the years which I am now letting since I remarried. As soon as labour get to power I will give my tenants notice before they can legislate stop working and spend the money until it is gone and then I can queue up and hold my hands out for free stuff. If you are frugal or safe money you are an Idiot under labour.

So what in her interviews did you dislike GG13? Was it perhaps that she showed some sort of reasonable and sympathetic attitude which has been missing from the Home office for so long and has resulted in things like the Windrush families debacle.
As for the debate about Brexit and Labour. Labour have the sense to realise that people have different opinions but the same socialist beliefs. Hence Ian Lavery - "The Labour Party is not a Leave or a Remain party it is a Socialist Party." People will be trusted vote on a deal, not told what to think.

And what would it do, lemon? Let's have some evidence here.

On past evidence I think you will have a long wait Maizie.

This socialist Labour is for the people Lumarei Labour will just go after the bad landlords those who won't make their property fit for human habitation like Rees Smug who voted not o do.

There is a massive inequality in Britain right now with the 1% increasing their wealth by a huge 183% while public services are cut to the bone and our precious NHS being sold off and an insurance based health care on the way.

Labour will tax the very rich that is the sort of socialist Labour government I want and so do many others.

Plus new green deal A Green Industrial Revolution

Build social housing.

Make home eco friendly wow what a savings that will make for people and help to save the planet as well.

Fantastic polices.

There would seem to be a huge amount of unsubstantiated hysteria by Tory supporters on this thread this morning.

Could it be that the Labour Parties great start in it's election campaign has those Tory supporters that worried.

Anyway, I am of to the office now, see you later, could be very much later.

As soon as labour get to power I will give my tenants notice before they can legislate stop working and spend the money until it is gone and then I can queue up and hold my hands out for free stuff. If you are frugal or safe money you are an Idiot under labour.

Yet again, not exactly evidence-based is it?

All these non-discussions are getting very boring.

No manifesto necessary for Corbyn. Just look at Russia, China, Cuba and any other communist countries and that is where he wants us to be. Dispossess everyone only the elite have everything. No wealth generation because it’s not worth going out to work and why would you set up a company if everyone else can tell you what to do and you are taxed so that it is not worth your effort?

I am speechless that people even contemplate such an economically devastating party.

Gran, that is not so. You are falling for the propaganda. Read what he said 3 months ago. His side kick is a total Marxist. Corbyn is only the mouth piece.
Corbyn has shown in the last 3 years that what he said one day is not what he said the other.

He was always anti Europe - it being a capitalist superstate. He advocated and asked his workers to vote for leave and then afterwards turns and blocks every vote. It is his voters that are. Outlying affected by leaving the EU as manufacturing is badly affected. All he does is talk AGAINST. He doesn’t even know what he is against. He has no policies, no moral he just wants to be voted in. He blocked a general election several times he is dangerous as he has no stance on anything - making promises he can never deliver.
Spoke to the pension advisor yesterday and economically we are screwed whatever happens. Corbyn cannot in a million years pay for what he promises and that is typically labour they can’t do their sums.
The UK’ political picture is in dire straights and there is no party that I feel wholly comfortable with but labour makes even the BNP look fantastic and believe me I really dislike the BNP.

No manifesto necessary for Corbyn. Just look at Russia, China, Cuba and any other communist countries and that is where he wants us to be.

That is rubbish. Where is the evidence? It seems people are coming on this thread just to shout out outrageously incorrect slogans. There isn't an ounce of truth in what you say. There are Scandinavian countries who are further to the left than anything the Labour Party is offering.

These post are just stupid, unthought through shouts of ignorance of the facts. What's the point? The politics threads have stopped showing any sign of discussion and have just become an hotbed of right wing invective.

Lumarei Really your posts contain so many inaccuracies and contradictions they border on the ridiculous. There were many posts onGN during Brenxit bemoaning the fact that Corbyn hadn't campaigned for one side or the other.
As for your pensions advisor could I detect a little political bias? Boris is promising massive spending did he explain how that would be funded?
As for Russia China and Cuba there are no similarities.
I would imagine the BNP is your true home.

Trister and GracesGran you are so wrong - on every count. I am an ardent remainer and strongly in the liberal camp, can’t stand any right or left wing. Isn’t it easy and lazy to brand everyone who does not agree with you right wing. I liked Tony Blair - he was a good prime mister - shame about the Irak war. To me Corbyn is in the same ridiculous and dangerous camp as Trump.

Trisher tell me about my contradictions.

GracesGran where is the evidence? History is there to compare and not repeat mistakes.

Try he advocated and asked his workers to vote for leave and he has no policies (unless you think all leavers had no policies)
or All he does is talk AGAINST and Corbyn cannot in a million years pay for what he promises
Contradictions or what?
It amazes me how many people claim to be centre left but can't state exactly what policies they support. Just post invective about how awful the left wing are (when they are only slightly left of centre!)

First of all Corbyn was against "millionaires" until someone pointed out that he is worth approx £3 million.

He is now anti-Billionaires? The very entrepreneurs who provide employment and apprenticeships.

Labour is not a party that encourages people to be aspirational, it is the party of "envy taxes".......ironical really when there are as many "rich elite" in The Labour Party.

and strongly in the liberal camp, can’t stand any right or left wing.

According to The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics, in liberal democracies, the political right opposes socialism and social democracy. Right-wing parties include conservatives, Christian democrats, classical liberals, nationalists; and on the far-right, racists and fascists.