Corbyn and No Confidence

Today at PMQ's Corbyn was mentioning the fact EU workers were brought in to undercut wages in the UK.

This is the same point he made time and again during his referendum debates, well the times he debated with the under 30's or his core followers.

That is why it is said of Corbyn he had no heart in making the case for 'Remain' , he kept mentioning more things that are wrong with the EU than those at are good.

Couldn't make it up!

@POGS

If you read the recommendations, Chakrabarti specifically mentions the word 'Zio' and advises against using it, because many see it as offensive.

I agree with you that, on the face of it, Corbyn seems weak and I wouldn't dispute that. My own opinion is that it was a misunderstanding (but what do I know?) and the way to deal with misunderstandings is to apologise. I understand an immediate apology was lacking.

daphnedil

I have read it ! How would I know she mentions the word Zio as I mentioned in my post 13.09 , a word used which we discussed in the Anti - Semitism in the Labour Party and Universities thread.

Labour needs a Scots or Welsh leader . Not being anti English I promise , far more difficult to place these accents into a class

Well you did have Gordon Brown Anniebach.

Yes POGS, and if he had stood as leader as was expected things would have been so different, in my opinion. Brown took over after constant attacks in the press as to his mental stability, then the unfortunate release of him calling that woman a bigot.

You also had Tony Blair.

Yes Rosesarered, you are really up on British politics

Neil Gordon Kinnock?

See , I'm quite good too!
He even had a Scottish middle name!

Once the press starts putting the boot any leader is doomed, especially LP ones. Unfortunately the way we practise politics is adversarial, and I guess people like it as it's more exciting, but IMO not much to do with democracy. I think it would serve us better to have proportional representation, instead of a few constituencies deciding who will run the country. Consensus politics, which I think is what Corbyn is trying just won't work here, unfortunately. The traditional Labour voter doesn't exist any more, so perhaps it is time for parties on the left to join together to form a strong group to oppose the Tories. This will be necessary in the next couple of years, to ensure we hold on to the rights and benefits we have had in EU for one thing.

Blair is Scottish.

Newport in Salop is not that far from Wales (Corbyn)

Just saying
Ducks and runs

We don't say Salop anymore Jalima, because of French connotations. Blame it on EU if you like.

{grin]

Do you pronounce Shrewsbury as 'Shrooosbry' or 'Shrowsbry'?

Blair, David Steel, Gordon Brown, Alec Douglas Home, Charles Kennedy, AJ Balfour, Henry Campbell-Bannerman, Ramsey MacDonald for starters then from Wales, Lloyd George, Nye Bevan, Neil Kinnock (I have probably missed loads!)
Easier to enumerate English born UK political leaders and prime ministers!!

lazigirl

Gladstone was born in England, but was Scottish.

Shroosbury dd, but even Salopians (see what I did there?) who've lived here a long time argue about that

Daphnedill Shrows if you're posh (or aspirational) Shoosbry if not! Perhaps plenty Scots and Welsh politicians/leaders cos it's hard in Wales and up north and they had to fight for their rights.

Thanks for the answer. I always say Shrooo, so I'm obviously not posh.

Join the club dd. It's much more fun down here with the plebs

Always brought up to say Shroosbury
Then met a boy from 'Shrowsbury'
(But I didn't marry him --thank goodness--)

I never knew that Salop was 'Anglo-Norman French'. The things you can learn on GN!

If the inhabitants of Shropshire are salop(e)s are the babies *Salopettes"?

I don't know how much ski-ing takes place in Salop

Perhaps down the Long Mynd?

Anyway, it is still not Wales
And i think Jeremy C was born in Chippenham (or so they claimed)

Or, as the Telegraph claims, he was born in Chippenham, Shropshire!
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/17/biography-of-jeremy-corbyn---in-60-seconds/

Who writes this rubbish?
Oh, Charlotte Krol
Presumably she got paid, too.

Anyway, this doesn't solve the problem1