Cameron Shaming the Country

Well Blair and Bush sure as hell weren't telling the truth! We can't know if DC is but the majority of the British public expect him to act for the greater good and in the interests of us, the general public. There will be another atrocity on European soil, possibly here, and when it comes I do hope those of you who are troubled by this traitor's death, will be slightly more bothered by any innocent loss of life that will occur at that time. Maybe not, as long as the correct protocol has been observed. That's what really matters!

If it later emerges that DC had stretched the truth a bit I would still be delighted that a terrorist was now a dead terrorist and no longer in a position to bring death and destruction to my country. Or is someone going to suggest that he was just over there visiting a sick relative......

Well Blair and Bush sure as hell weren't telling the truth!

And are probably the two most culpable for the present crises.

Britain's aid budget, 2nd only to the US, whilst we are not perfect, we do a damn sight more than many other countries around the world. That's to those of you who hate the UK, particularly England. I guess you'll know who you are.

Yet Cameron is telling the truth rosequartz ?

The first duty of any government is the protection, safety and security of its citizens from outside forces that wish us harm to the point of destruction which this force does. What do these people have to do to convince us that they do actually wish us harm to the point of that destruction? apart, that is from burning, beheading drowning, throwing off roof tops, rape, slavery, crucifixion, the horrendous list is endless, so at what point do you say that these poor people who are living in this nightmare actually need some help in the shape of eliminating these evil unbelievably cruel appalling creatures. A dead jihadist is a reason for celebration and having to obtain parliaments approval in this instance is downright ridiculous.

rosequartz - I don't think anyone on this thread disagrees with you putting responsibility on Blair and Bush for their part in the current melt down in the middle east

Blair denies it vigorously of course.

It'll be interesting to see whether Corbyn's 'let's talk it over' approach goes down as well with the general population if he wins the Labour leadership contest as it appears to be doing with certain posters on here.

No harming trying Ana, blowing Iraq to bits didn't work, why do you think it would in Syria?

For a start, who would he 'engage in conversation'?

There isn't an acknowledged Leader of IS, there are factions all over the place who wouldn't necessarily want to talk or compromise - that doesn't seem to be their way of operating at all.

And I didn't suggest blowing Syria to bits. I just think it's sensible to preempt terrorist striked whenever possible.

strikes

Russia, Saudia Arabia, China, America etc. No bomb or bullet is inscribed with - not to cause harm to a child or the oppressed

So, we should just sit back and wait to be annihilated then? While Jeremy is wondering who to conduct 'talks' with first?

How about practising with a small nuclear bomb, then. Serve them right for being born in Syria.

Sigh...

What do you think should be done Ana ? bombing Syria will not end this hell we are plunged into , perhaps talks wouldn't change a thing but surely worth trying ?

Good post nigglynellie. Hard to understand why anyone is getting hot and bothered by the death of this awful person.IS or whatever they are calling themselves this week are scum, and worse are the British scum who have joined them.

Why should Ana, or you AB or anyone on this forum have the answer?
I think most governments know in their hearts that IS will have to be wiped out sooner or later, but have been hoping it would fizzle out naturally.

I am not hot and bothered by the death of this person though I am sorry a young man has died. I am questioning the timing and what Cameron is planning , and not because he is a Tory, because he is PM

So when do you think Cameron should ask for Parliament's agreement?
As I've said before, we live in a democracy, supposedly.
Where are your lines drawn, niggly, and why should Cameron be allowed to draw his own lines?
It makes me think of Orwell's 1984, where the wars took place overseas, and the population was told when something they needed to know had happened, by Big Brother.

The population has been told what it needed to know for years and years, honesty isn't always the best policy when running a country, unless you want mass panic and hysteria.

Actually it was two British jihadis that were killed by the drone, you can see them right now on the news, posturing for the camers.

" Kat Craig, legal director of Reprieve’s abuses in counter-terrorism team, said: “What we are seeing is the failed US model of secret strikes being copied wholesale by the British government. Ministers repeatedly promised parliament and the public that there would be no military operations in Syria without parliamentary approval. The fact that David Cameron has bypassed parliament to commit these covert strikes is deeply worrying – as is his refusal to share what legal advice he was given.”"

They lied. Just like Blair did over WMD.

So Blair and Bush were wrong but Cameron is right