Same sex marriages now legal

Lovely to hear that mcem. Your DGD sounds like a wee charmer. She'll go far that girl

Hope you can put your feet up and relax now that all the excitement is over although I am sure it was worth all the preparation just seeing the happiness on your girls' faces.

Agus since you're the only one to mention sporran full, I'm happy to tell you he acquired £5 or £6 of coins. It was quite a small sporran so quite full up. Am ashamed to say that his wee sister cottoned on and followed him around while clutching her (now empty) petal basket. She had a similar haul. I was totally unaware of this at the time but she was clearly irresistible!

To hear obviously!

ps. Hope your GS got a sporran full for being a good boy.

Please do hear the big day went well mcem. I wish your girls every happiness for the future. Slainte

Thank you so much for your good wishes. No big honeymoon planned but the girls are off to Edinburgh for a few days - pandas, shopping, ghost walk etc!
Can't believe that those 2 beautiful dresses I looked after so carefully are hanging up in the same place but looking a bit grubby and slightly sorry for themselves.
Back to the real world for all of us but with a clutch of very happy memories and some lovely pic's. DS was 'best man' and his speech was excellent, DD1 chose and read a beautiful poem while DGC's were all I could have wished for.
The girls had such waves of love and support washing over them that I feel truly optimistic for their future. I'm so happy that they can look forward in a way that would have been utterly impossible just a few years ago!

Congratulations from me too mcem and pleased you all had such a lovely day

mcem I'm glad the day went well for them and hope they have a long and happy future together.

mcem, lovely news and congratulations to all. Cheers!

Glad you ALL had a wonderful day.

What wonderful news! - so glad that it was truly happy day.

Lovely news. Congratulations to all and long life and happiness to your girls.

Thanks for the update mcem, good to hear the day was so happy and beautiful for all

On Friday I attended the Civil Partnership ceremony of my girls and it was such a happy and beautiful day for all of us. Several very traditional friends approached me later to say they'd found the ceremony very personal, appropriate and moving. Many said it was the best wedding they'd ever attended. The brides and bridesmaids were beautiful - little ones adorable and so well-behaved - a superbly happy event!

I've only ever read of Nero having married one man, whom he had previously had castrated. He apparently married him because he closely resembled his dead wife.

Yes well, one of the Roman Emperors [Caligula?] married his horse, but what does that prove?

Didn't Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians have marriages between men? Nero had more than one husband. It's been permitted and outlawed many times in history.

We can't really talk about marriage as if it's a fixed and unchanging institution, although previously it has always been between a man and a woman (worldwide I think). That would, of course, have been mainly to ensure the reliable legacy of wealth and title to the offspring and the avoidance of cuckoos in the nest. (Nowadays there is DNA testing.) Nevertheless, the institution as such has changed and these changes were probably accepted with great reluctance among the many. Until the Married Women's Property Act, marriage meant a woman gave up all rights to her possessions to her husband who had no accountability about what he did with them. At one time, women could legally be forced into marriage against their will with no way of avoiding it. Husbands could divorce wives, but not vice versa. There have always been changes and modifications to all social activities and contracts. Marriage for gay men and women is just one more, albeit quite a sizeable change and, for many, long overdue.

Thank you mcem for the explanation and also for pointing out that there is little difference in the two ceremonies . I wouldn't have waited either,as you say for some the wait will indeed be a long one.All good wishes to them when the day arrives.

I so agree Atqui and Mollie 65.

I too am not anti gay. Being Gay is not a choice it is how some people are born, as I was born Hetrosexual. However, I have be brought up to believe that a wedding is between a man and woman.

I do realise that in years to come my ideas will be thought of as very out-dated but I have to stand by my beliefs.

annsixty - as we are scots, the girls would have had to wait until the marriage law goes through the scottish parliament. Rather than wait, they decided to go ahead this summer with the civil partnership. Frankly, and it's been said on this thread, there seems to be so little difference between the 2 they didn't want to wait. For couples with strong religious feelings it would probably be right to wait until marriage in church is legal though it might be a long wait. That didn't apply to my girls so they are happy to make their commitment in front of friends and family in July.

I wasn't going to comment on the 'anti gay sentiments' comment, but in support of Mollie 65..... I didn't think there had been any anti gay sentiments. Just because some people do not agree with same sex Marriage does not mean they are anti gay surely??

I am NOT anti-gay or narrow-minded and I find those accusations (you know who I am referring to) a form of personal bullying which is sad for such a nice forum generally.

I confess to not reading through all this thread so apologies if this has already been answered, but did your DD decide on a civil partnership before the law was changed to allow marriage and would she have gone down that route when planning now?To mcem of course.

Would anyone find it odd that, when we discuss our plans for DD's civil partnership ceremony, the 2 wee ones (ages 3 and 5) never question the fact that auntie has a girlfriend and not a boyfriend? Simply a fact in their little lives and long may that last!
As you suggest Iam it may be a generation thing!

Sometimes public attitudes change gradually after laws are made. Drink Driving would be a good example, fewer people would now drink and get in their cars. The fear of prosecution is one thing, but it's no longer socially acceptable to drink and drive.
None of the young people I know would express such anti gay sentiments as some on this thread have done. Hopefully, times are changing.