'The thug in police uniform'. (Daily Mail today)

Well I must be naive as I assumed whenim64 meant PC fascists at her former place of work, not other people on this forum.
I have only just joined and didn't expect it to be fully of petty bickering and umbrage-taking.
There, I expect I've offended everyone now

My (adult) kids and grand-kids don't mind at all

Hello, jane, and welcome to GN! Och! We have our little shadowy outbursts every now and then, but they blow over like clouds on a blustery day.

Not at all Jane! It doesn't happen very often.

I did Jane. Only just noticed this or I would have commented earlier. Thank you

Oh, snap Bags!

gj , and I don't suppose mine have even noticed.

Tru jane a rare event - normal group dynamics have now been resumed.

jane I'll second Jess - and welcome -

Wellcome my Internet is playing up and I can only get on occasionally

Welcome Jane. Looking forward to chatting more to you.

soop I wondered if I had written something ambiguous, but I can only read that I was glad to escape the PC fascists that read the worst into everything that their working colleagues would say, if they had an opportunity to agitate by claiming to be offended. Nothing about Gransnetters on there

Think there was a miscarriage of justice re the Tomlinson case. The guy was clearly walking away from the police when attacked. If that was not a policeman and a civilian with that history i really believe the outcome would have been guilty. There are some really wonderful policemen, many very ordinary ones and some idiot officers! the idiot ones need to be weeded out.

The use of kids is not offensive to me. I believe there is some minor snobbery about the use of some words.. e.g. it is not 'nice' to to say kids/ta/ bum/mum etc better to say children/thank you/ bottom/ mummy etc But more important things in life to get exorcised about..like idiot police officers!

I don't understand how anyone can get heated about the word 'kids'. Does it matter? Can't we all have our opinions without getting heated? Perleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.

Thanks all for the welcome, looking forward to more discussions.

What really upsets me is that the other policemen present, the good ones, do not come forward to give testimony against him.

Excuse the pun perhaps they think they"re breaking rank

Their life would be hell afterwards!

Agreed. I think that explains why they don't. Sad but true.

OH YES

We expect priests, doctors, judges, etc, to have the courage to 'out' bad colleagues - so why not the police?

That's a bit naive!

Anyone who keeps silent about corruption, abuse or violence needs to think about what they are colluding with by remaining silent. There is always a way for professionals to tell if the prospect of doing it openly is too daunting. We are quick to condemn harm done in the church and I struggle to see why other trusted professionals should be excused when they won't tell.

I'm afraid I have bitter personal experience that not all doctors 'out' their incompetent colleagues, and so do at least another dozen women.
Whistleblowers run a grave risk of losing their jobs and their careers.

Same with judges!

Good post when.
In my 'other' life as a professional, there were times when I had to break a confidence, to protect another. I made it clear that this would be done, explain how and why it would be done, and then instigate it.
A firm grounding in Ethics made it easier.
Unfortunately, the term whistle-blowing can be seen as having a negative impact upon the person 'whistling' - and as gn says - the risk of losing jobs and careers is very real.