Republicanism

I did not curtsy to Prinny Anne when I met her at Buckingham Palace.

Another thing I would like to say. Even republican countries have allowed their people to be proud of their countries but us poor sods have had to take a back seat or be classed as fools, idiots, colonialists or racist.

Yes, Jingle sense of history, especially when it chronicles how these individuals have killed off their rivals, married off their children to gain power overseas, and taken what isn't their's in the first place so they could assume the throne, then procreate (sons get priority) so they can keep it in the family. Let's keep a sense of history to inform us how not to behave in future.

Plenty of sense of occasion, especially when I get chance to meet someone who has done something to be admired, whether it be my chikldren graduating, my sister reaching her 40th anniversary or someone like Eddie Izzard or John Bishop being celebrated for doing day-after-day marathons and challenges to raise money for the disadvantaged. The London Marathon is a great occasion, as is Last Night of the Proms. I like to see things like the Edinburgh Tattoo and Trooping the Colour, but you don't need someone on a throne to do those traditional ceremonies.

I find history fascinating - so interesting how pecking order is decided amongst humans, especially when those who threaten the status quo tend to get bumped off by the rich and powerful.

pogs not sure what you are on about re colonialist etc!

Was not the jubilee weekend a huge nationalist celebration! I am proud of all sorts of things that are good and have come from Britain and of parts of British history. There are some bits that Britain is responsible for that do not make me proud. It is OK to say Britain is not perfect. It is blind nationalism that is so dangerous...

late Sunday, going to bed.
disappointed still nobody tried to show royals compatible with democracy ????

You can't have it both ways

It is a comment I have heard spoken before by republicans, it would be at the time of being interviewed on the T.V. as I do not listen to the radio. I'm not sure but I think it MIGHT have been a comment made by Polly Toynbe to name but one but I would not swear it. Maybe Yasmin Adabya Brown (forgive my spelling). Is it not a republican thought then?

pammygran yes the though of President Blair is enough to send shivers down anyone's spine but at least he would have been voted in t office fairly and would only be president for a "term" and then could be replaced. Additionally we would not be forced to "keep" his children and their children, aunties uncles, brothers sisters, granny, cousin..........etc. in the lap of luxury for their entire life too.

You can have it both ways carbon. As our present society shows perfectly well.

It's still thrown up a good bit of reading whenim.

Seriously, the past is amazingly interesting, and can be totally absorbing. Yes, a lot of it is gut wrenchingly cruel. But we have moved on a lot since then. (phew!)

For goodness sake whenim! Don't mention celebs doing heroic things!

You will come in for this sort of stuff!

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jings That is very naughty but I suppose it's only because you are besotted with the royal family…

And I would just mention that when was careful not to use the word 'heroic'!

Yeah Yeah absent. I can laugh now.

I think GN may have toughened me up.

You appear very intent on stirring things up on this issue carboncareful but we don't seem to have got your full opinion on the subject or your stated case on the benefits of having a republic.

Do the royals trace their descent from the Conqueror? I'm not quite sure about that but in 'Who do you think you are?' Alexander Armstrong proved that he did. Alexander for king (or president), anyone? I think he'd do a fantastic job or is this a pointless discussion?

I don't trust him, his ears are way too big!

And Charlie's aren't?

Not as big as AA's....

Hahaha! Jingle you are wicked - there's a big difference between taking on a challenge and being heroic.

I think I might have more respect for the monarch if she HAD done something heroic, but travelling in comfort to unveil a plaque or hosting a sumptuous dinner for diplomats is not my idea of hard work or heroism, even if her corns might ache when she gets back to the palace.

Off out to do battle with my little grandsons, who will be tired and fractious after a busy day playing - now that IS heroic!!

Carol for Queen!

Don't you think, in all honesty, that having to do those things day in and day out, all of your life, from when you were twentysix, might become a bit wearing, to put it mildly? She didn't actually ask for the job. She would probably be happier living in the countryside, breeding racehorses.

Well, doesn't she already do that? Country 'retreats' include Balmoral and Sandringham, breeds horses too. That's me off my fence, better get back on

I have been writing and testing recipes pretty much day in and day out since I was 26 and, although it seemed an enjoyable way to earn a living for a while, it's become quite tedious now. I can't really afford not to work, so shall probably die with my boots on or, at least, slaving over a hot keyboard or cooker. In addition, I do housework and laundry, cook meals, go shopping, pay tax, paid off a mortgage, pay for my own holidays and travel when I can afford to, paint walls, make curtains, etc. etc. I still lead a fairly comfortable existence and there are lots of people in this country whose lives are very much harder than mine. So, in all honesty, I don't think the Queen has had anything other than the easiest of lives.

What do I think Gangy5? I think royalty is just another way of manipulating the masses. Sad.