Non Immunised grandchild

Hanging qualified as an infectious diseases nurse in the 1950s , I would advise everyone to have their children vaccinated. If you ever saw a child with measles and whooping cough, for some reason in the 50s and 60s it was a common combination you would beg for vaccinations. Unfortunately some of these infections diseases are beginning to reappear as people don't bother to have their children vaccinated nowadays. I can fully understand your concerns about your granddaughter. I would risk the contact at this time.

Surely the baby's parents will have considered their baby beig exposed to other people when they visit with you. Hopefully peope will be considerate and not travel to you if they are or suspect they may be ill. It's the parents' responsibility and choice if they want to visit.

Getting the whooping cough vaccine during pregnancy is now recommended as it protects the baby during the first few months when they are too young to be vaccinated. www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/whooping-cough-vaccination/
Not 100% protection, but helps. However, if these parents are against vaccination, the mother probably didn't get it.

Although science/medicine can change when the evidence changes, in the case of vaccines, the evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of them. However, it is very difficult to persuade people who are anti- they are usually anti-science as well!

icanhandthemback

In the first year if the mother is breast feeding the baby should have all its mothers immunities so maybe that would ease your mind for at least this year.

Baby is not breastfed

Lucca

icanhandthemback

In the first year if the mother is breast feeding the baby should have all its mothers immunities so maybe that would ease your mind for at least this year.

Baby is not breastfed

It doesn't work.

DD caught measles before she was old enough to be vaccinated. She was breastfed.

Lucca, I did actually say that I'd missed that the baby wasn't breastfed and I apologised ont Thu 15-Dec-22 11:18:15.

Callistemon21, breast feeding isn't a foolproof immunity but it certainly helps a lot babies. Even vaccinations aren't 100%!

Yes, she may well have been more ill if she wasn't.

I’ve reached 72 without one vaccination. Not one. I didn’t have any childhood stuff like mumps measles or chicken pox… I’ve had colds…and now got old people stuff going on…..and had two strokes at an early age of mid 30’s and mid 40’s…. None of which would’ve been covered by any injections. On that note ….if someone invents an injection to cure arthritis , I’ll be front of queue.

My sister nearly died of whooping cough and my best friend's lungs were damaged permanently by the disease. Her adult life has been peppered with severe respiratory illmesses that end up with her being in hospital.

You were very fortunate Saggi that you have come through without vaccinations or getting any the childhood illnesses most children are vaccinated against.

I foresee and very sad and lonely world where people from one household never mixes with others JUST IN CASE they catch something. Can I suggest that everyone researches natural remedies and foods/herbs that enhance the inate immune system. We're probably going to have to consider growing our own vegetables and herbs seeing as the globe's vegetable growers have had to rely on pesticides and chemical fertilizers for so long that most soil is dead and will take several years to recover. Hard news, but it's a fact, unless you are happy to eat bugs and plastic meat from Bill Gates recies book.

GrammyGrammy

Quokka

What are you likely to pass onto them from the following list

diphtheria
tetanus
pertussis (whooping cough)
polio
Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
hepatitis B
rotavirus
meningococcal group B disease (MenB)
These will be given as 2 injections and drops into the mouth.

At 12 weeks, your baby will have immunisations against:

diphtheria
tetanus
pertussis (whooping cough)
polio, Hib
hepatitis B
pneumococcal disease
rotavirus
These will be given as 2 injections and drops into the mouth.

At 16 weeks, your baby will have immunisations against:

diphtheria
tetanus
pertussis (whooping cough) *polio
Hib
hepatitis B
MenB
These will be given as 2 injections.

1.2 Immunisations your baby will have at 1 year of age
Your baby will have immunisations against:

Hib/Meningococcal group C (MenC)
MenB
measles, mumps, rubella (MMR)
pneumococcal disease

No wonder most children have health or learning or behavioural issues nowadays with that cocktail of poisons in them!

What a ridiculous exaggeration.

First I had measles, chicken pox, whooping cough and scarlet fever as a child.I had no problems from catching them, don’t think I was vaccinated against anything until I was 9 and we went abroad to live. I can’t see why the visit can’t still take place, wear a mask when travelling and around baby. It’s the parents choice

There are plenty of successful organic farms in the UK effalump and in most countries. Yes, it might mean a small rise in prices, but 'worn out soils' can be reactivated and will improve from year 1.

The only vaccines I have ever had are two or three doses of the 50's one - I think it was polio/diptheria/whooping cough and a couple of flu vaccines when I was working.

People have different views about vaccines. Most people seem to get various bugs, flu, Covid, etc., even when they have had all the vaccines. Sometimes It's just the luck of the draw. It seems an awful shame that this couple are having such pressure piled on them from every direction.