Does this worry you?

If your depression is making you suicidal, I don't think a plate of vegetables and a brisk walk will help.

I loathe this bashing of people who take antidepressants. It demands a great deal of courage to admit you are suffering and see the GP.
They know what they are doing. Not some smug person who apparently, has never experienced any of the down times we mere mortals are prone to.

My mention of 'pill popping' was perhaps a lazy way of describing the numerous pills some people take as routine, often for years without really realising the effects long term.
Doctors may not routinely ask their patients in for an update on their condition and to see what effect (or none) the medication (s) had on the given medical problem and repeat scripts are often just given without thought as to whether the patient might benefit in other ways.

I used to live in Surrey and would doubt that the air is totally pure despite claims to the contrary. Apologies, JenniferEccles, I'm sure that in British terms, it is better than some places

Sorry. Gabriella, your post does seem smug and implies that ill-health is brought upon us by an unhealthy lifestyle which is simply not the case in many instances.

grapefruitpip
Nowhere do I mention that a veg diet or fresh air will cure anythinng, so your flippant comment has been kicked well out of the ballpark.
That was my answer to one of your 'mates'.
My original post was not espousing any remedy. I was drawing attention to an article...for those who may be interested.
If you had no interest, why on earth wage a war of words with me?
IMV it's totally ridiculous to do that and serves no purpose other than for you to spit invective.

anythinng anything

Callistemon
My OP was an article which was not written by me
It was posted for those who may have been interested
I wasn't in any way shape or form mentioning my own health...
Some people...fgs. Give me strength.

I wage war, as you put it rather foolishly. I play straight into your hands.

You claim to have no interest in other people and to be supremely confident that you are perfect.

You don't wish to help, to draw attention to any possible side effects to taking medication.

You wish to provoke, to feel superior and to gloat.

People here have things going on which are unimaginably challenging through no fault of their own.
Thank Goodness for medication and well trained, compassionate medics.

If I had spotted such an article I may have said something along the lines of....Look GN folk, this may be worth a read, some of you might like along to the GP and review your medication.

No-one has said that Surrey air is pure so don't write untruths about what has been alleged.
Surrey is a huge county and my area is cleaner pollution-wise than some other far flung parts of the county.
Who said the air here was pure?

Oh GabriellaG54 hand back the keys to the JCB.

grapefruitpip
I let people choose for themselves whether to read or not...or should I contact you beforehand to ask what you think is an appropriate intro to post...eh?
I don't know who you think you are.

Doctors are too quick to prescribe drugs for every little ailment, but then they are encouraged to do so by the drug companies.

phoenix

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As someone who will be on antibiotics for the rest of her life, and who needs steroids on a regular basis, as well as a lot of other toxic medication, it does worry me, Gabriella, I am in no doubt about the damage it is doing to my gut.
i think it is pretty obvious that your stomach will suffer.

For that reason, I do take probiotics, which I have found helpful and have a very healthy diet.

However, as another poster has said, I too would be dead, if I didn't take them, so some of us have no choice in the matter. I would ditch all the pills in a second, if I could.

Shant!

Oops, should have proof read!
I wrote i instead of I!

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

I'll tell you who I am , a person with empathy ,with feeling for others.

So to tell people who need medication to survive that you ( in perfect health) have read some tosh in the DM is disingenuous.

I was feeling ok this morning, until I read this thread. Then I went down again, feeling hurt and tearful. But I got on my bike and went to the local shops. I can only just manage to ride my bike these days. It makes me so tired, and I puff and blow.

I won't read anymore of this thread. If you haven't been there, you have no idea.

I'm not doing this getting old thing very well.

As Callistemon said, none of us know what is around the corner. "

Alexa Wed 23-Oct-19 13:51:43
You have no idea how much fluoxetine helped me

Placebo effect

Your medical degree was gained exactly when, Alexa ?

Alexa your post is downright cruel.

Perhaps I should have had a cushy job with hours to suit instead of nursing thousands of people over the years----huh, the inconvenience of them being ill !

46 years of slog takes its toll on the best of us, besides bringing up children and the problems that crop up over the years.

Blooming cheek !

I totally ignore the media or anyone who dictates how you should live etc. I use my common sense.!

Gonegirl it would be more cruel if I patronised you.

MawB it's common knowledge the story about serotonin and its re-uptake and so on is bunk.

People have bad experiences that cause long lasting trauma. In the great majority of cases there is absolutely nothing wrong with their neurotransmitters. Brains are marvellous!

Nice one, the misinformation and arguing begins.

Do you have a link please Alexa?

Alexa
Just one reticle

Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) are the most commonly prescribed antidepressants. They can ease symptoms of moderate to severe depression, are relatively safe and typically cause fewer side effects than other types of antidepressants do
How SSRIs work
SSRIs treat depression by increasing levels of serotonin in the brain. Serotonin is one of the chemical messengers (neurotransmitters) that carry signals between brain nerve cells (neurons)
SSRIs block the reabsorption (reuptake) of serotonin into neurons. This makes more serotonin available to improve transmission of messages between neurons. SSRIs are called selective because they mainly affect serotonin, not other neurotransmitters.
SSRIs may also be used to treat conditions other than depression

What is common knowledge is that there may be many different reasons for depression.
Trauma only being one.