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We have a rat visiting the compost bin…

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lixy Sat 15-Mar-25 14:41:17

And I would really like to discourage it as we also have young g’children visiting regularly.

I have a dalek-style plastic compost bin. It sits in a sunny corner, is full of worms and things break down really quickly. Fruit and veg peelings, washed egg shells and some garden clippings all go in along with a healthy amount of paper and cardboard.

I noticed a round hole coming under the fence and another going under the base of the bin, hence the visiting rat assumption. We have had the wildlife cameras out for a few nights but haven’t caught it on film yet!

Today I have emptied the bin and laid chicken wire under it. The wire also goes a little way up the sides. I have put the contents back into the bin, closed it up and crossed my fingers. The contents are nearly ready for use in the garden.

I am using my rotating bin instead for now.

I know we all live close to rats and don’t want to harm them, just discourage visits. Anyone got any useful hints or tips for the future? ( getting a Jack Russell isn’t an option I’m afraid!)

Babs03 Sun 16-Mar-25 18:54:13

Tizliz

I eventually got rid of my compost bin when I realised that I would never have the courage to do anything with it since I got bit by an adder lurking in it.

Whoa!
That’s horrible.
We don’t have a compost bin and certainly won’t get one after reading that.
🫣

Allira Sun 16-Mar-25 18:10:59

merlotgran

Thanks, Allira and Iam.

I’m a country girl in the suburbs now and have only seen one rat since I moved here thanks to the local fox population keeping them under control.
Turned my compost heap this morning. Blooming hard work but I have enough to mulch the borders.

In London, when the Council refuse collectors and street collectors were on strike, I saw a couple.
Here I've seen a few over the years but everyone does feed the birds so I suppose it's a trade-off. At one time the Council would send the Rodent Inspector round to deal with them but no longer. I found a desiccated one on the lawn once so someone must be putting out bait. We have hedgehogs so we haven't done that.

keepingquiet Sun 16-Mar-25 17:53:33

I wastoldnot to put eggshells (even washed ones!) in compost as they take years to rot down. I would crush them up very small
and dig them into the soil itself.

As for rats- I have only ever seen two in the eight years I've been here. They came up the drains and ran up the wall into my neighbour's garden!

I much prefer spiders...

watermeadow Sun 16-Mar-25 17:46:35

I’ve never had mice in the house but think they’re sweet little animals. I had a rat in my compost for a while. He didn’t bother me and I didn’t bother him.
I’d rather have rats, bats and boa constrictors than spiders!

MayBee70 Sun 16-Mar-25 17:36:22

Nell82

To avoid cruelty to animals I once put out a humane trap. Fortunately nothing went in there as I forgot to check it!

I'm feeling awful today. I had a mouse in my kitchen last year. Tried a humane trap for one day but it didn't work. I always give mice a chance eg put stick in any buckets or watering cans outside that might fill up with water if it rains so they can climb out. But if there's a health risk I'm afraid I use a pretty fierce mouse trap and that it what I ended up doing However, I put the humane trap back in the garage and it had some peanut butter still inside. Cleaning out the garage just now I've found a poor dried up mouse in it. I'm going to check any other humane traps I have. I don't want that to happen again. I've never worked out how you can easily free a mouse trapped inside one of them; it took me ages to get the end of the trap open the get it out; not sure how that would be possible with a live one inside.

merlotgran Sun 16-Mar-25 17:16:45

Thanks, Allira and Iam.

I’m a country girl in the suburbs now and have only seen one rat since I moved here thanks to the local fox population keeping them under control.
Turned my compost heap this morning. Blooming hard work but I have enough to mulch the borders.

dalrymple23 Sun 16-Mar-25 16:07:18

.....and dogs, which is my panic.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:37:24

I like his expression btw it’s saying ‘are you looking at me!’

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:36:14

😄what a moggy!
If he had only been able to bring back the boar you could have invited the neighbours for a hog roast.

escaped Sun 16-Mar-25 15:31:26

My cat is basically a bully Oreo, and everyone knows it.
When he came from France to live in London, we had to take him to the vet because he had been in a fight with an urban fox. The vet said he wouldn't have liked to have seen the state of the fox. Our cat had fox hair in his claws and a broken tooth!
Totally fearless of the wild boar and just stood his ground. The smaller prey was brought in dead as presents.

JaneJudge Sun 16-Mar-25 15:00:23

we had a real problem where we used to live, caused by our neighbours chickens. We put bait boxes every 5 metres along all boundaries and the result was they burrowed up through the floor of an outhouse and died sad

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 14:53:17

A wild boor you say? I’ve met a fair few of those over the years😂
Anyway escaped your cat sounds like an effective hunter but a bit scary.I watched an online vid of a cat chasing a large dog, and another cat chasing off a bear, also a crocodile!

Iam64 Sun 16-Mar-25 13:47:14

Allira

merlotgran

The only effective way to get rid of vermin is to put down bait traps. Get a professional to do it as they will know how to identify the ‘rat run’ and place the trap correctly.

A lot of people will advise you not to make compost but if it’s done responsibly, as you are, I believe it’s an essential part of the gardening process.

It’s not cruel, it’s a trade off with nature You get what you want and the rats don’t.

Am I the only one who agrees with merlotgran?

Rats carry disease which can be transmitted to humans.

I do agree with Merlotgran. Our compost bin was great but after my husband died, I found digging out and putting the compass on the borders too much. We never had a rat problem with the compost.
Last time I saw a rat, the council rat catcher told me he’d been called by several neighbours. He said recent floods had washed the rats out of the drains. Also lockdown took the town rat populations easy access to food rubbish from restaurants, so they were moving to the suburbs. 😂
His traps and poison did the trick. I also could be confident he knew where to place then, which my dogs couldn’t get to

Nell82 Sun 16-Mar-25 13:06:37

To avoid cruelty to animals I once put out a humane trap. Fortunately nothing went in there as I forgot to check it!

merlotgran Sun 16-Mar-25 13:02:49

He's French and took on a wild boor once!

Was it called Boris?? 😂🇫🇷

Greyduster Sun 16-Mar-25 12:54:25

^ they like order and it confuses them^. I should be okay then😁! We had evidence of rats not long after we moved into this house and so did neighbours. There was a house with a large paddock behind us and the owner used to keep chickens. Rats not only liked the spilled chicken feed but the eggs too. He was eventually forced to get rid of the birds. No more rats.

escaped Sun 16-Mar-25 12:44:56

Oreo

When you compare rats to squirrels there really isn’t much difference.

My cat deals with rats, rabbits, squirrels and even foxes.
He's French and took on a wild boor once!
I've no idea what possesses him!

Allira Sun 16-Mar-25 12:24:54

merlotgran

The only effective way to get rid of vermin is to put down bait traps. Get a professional to do it as they will know how to identify the ‘rat run’ and place the trap correctly.

A lot of people will advise you not to make compost but if it’s done responsibly, as you are, I believe it’s an essential part of the gardening process.

It’s not cruel, it’s a trade off with nature You get what you want and the rats don’t.

Am I the only one who agrees with merlotgran?

Rats carry disease which can be transmitted to humans.

harrysgran Sun 16-Mar-25 11:55:03

I no longer feed the birds I would get rid of the compost bin putting traps out is the only way also having nothing against walls and fences helps and moving things around in the garden as apparently they like order and it confuses them smile

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 10:07:30

When you compare rats to squirrels there really isn’t much difference.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 10:06:31

Iam64

Greyduster

There’s no such thing as ‘a’ rat - there are only rats! Where there’s one, there will be others☹️.

Exactly ! They’re my room 13. I’m hopeless so after seeing a big fat one sitting under my squirrel free bird feeders, I stopped feeding the birds. I miss their singing

In this case ( mine) there is such a thing as ‘a’ rat, as the one that visits our bird feeder has something wrong with its tail, so easy to identify.It’s there every day at some point, I don’t really mind as it’s welcome to a few bits of seed that the birds drop.
😃

Tizliz Sun 16-Mar-25 10:00:54

I eventually got rid of my compost bin when I realised that I would never have the courage to do anything with it since I got bit by an adder lurking in it.

MiniMoon Sun 16-Mar-25 10:00:50

We used to have a jack russell, and now we have a cat neither of them caught rats. There is a hole under the greenhouse, probably a rat run, which is just beside the bird feeder. I have seen a rat trying to climb up for the bird seed.
I really don't want to stop feeding the birds so will have to put up with the rats, unless of course they start entering the house.

foxie48 Sun 16-Mar-25 09:29:11

We do wage an Autumn war with mice who want to invade our rafters for shelter during winter. They'd be welcome if they didn't eat the electric cables but they do. It doesn't help that an area above the stables used to be used for grain storage, it appears the mice don't mind that its over a hundred years old, it's still tasty to them! Sometimes nicer than the poison OH places strategically as we don't want to kill other wildlife.

Visgir1 Sun 16-Mar-25 09:26:40

I have x2 cats with one that will kill Rats.
I live on the edge of Farmland and it's very rural, but have seen one that was on my fence trying to get to the Bird feeder, plus we found the fence had been chewed at the bottom. However for several months no sightings or evidence so it looks like the Cats have done their job, as a deterrent or claimed another pray.