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Estrangement

I need advice for a mutually messy situation

(6 Posts)
Hithere Sat 08-Aug-26 05:54:41

Talk to him without expectations and with your boundaries clear.

Good luck

sundown Sat 08-Aug-26 04:12:01

Hi there, Hithere lol. I don't know. I feel like both my father and I had a mutual part to play in how things turned out. His health has gone downhill these past few years, and I think I want to give it one last shot before closing the doors for good.

sundown Sat 08-Aug-26 04:09:34

I think our biggest issue is that we're both terrified of vulnerability. I built an icy fortress to protect myself from disappointment, and he built an alternate reality to protect himself from the truth. My father had a horrible childhood, and while I know a lot of his issues are the result of unresolved trauma and defense mechanisms, they still hurt all the same.

It really hurts when your own father looks right through you. But you're right lovethepuppies, if I want to mend this relationship, I'll have to be vulnerable and try. I can't keep icing him out while expecting change if I'm unwilling to take the first step. It's just easier said than done, you know? I don't know what to say to him or how to talk to him; it's always so awkward, and I never know what might upset him.

Hithere Sat 08-Aug-26 03:42:59

A relationship can only be mended if both people are willing to put the work and see reality

From your post, you are all in, your father does not seem to.

lovethepuppies Sat 08-Aug-26 02:59:12

You sound a bit like me - torn because it can be so nice and lovely but, at the same time, there's this underlying pain in the relationship.

Do you think you're still in the place where you feel that if you could just explain, he'd understand? Some people just aren't willing or able to do that. If he's able to be dismissive, he will possibly continue to do so. It's hard to want to repair something that requires two people, but they don't want to consider your side of things.

If you want to mend the relationship, is there a way you can do so safely? At the moment, I'm choosing to just be in touch with my parents with a daily text exchange. It maintains that emotional distance while still allowing communication and a relationship, even if that's different to what I'd like it to be. Is this a good way for you to dip your toes in the water?

Just remember that you are allowed to have boundaries and make choices, even if they don't like them. Relationships usually take some healthy give and take, not all being about the needs of one person.

sundown Sat 08-Aug-26 02:23:26

I'm coming from the perspective of a daughter who has estranged herself from her father. I have a great relationship with my mom, but I simply can't keep holding up the relationship with my father. I've tried talking to him many times, to no avail.

He doesn't take my thoughts or feelings into consideration; he believes that as long as he's comfortable with his words and actions, everyone else should be too. He can't see outside of his own perspective. He constantly dismisses me and makes me uncomfortable, then says it's my fault and that I need to change myself to suit his needs yet he would never change any of his behaviors for me.

It feels like he's stuck in a fantasy version of reality. When there's a problem, his go-to is to ignore, dismiss, deflect, or straight-up pretend that what's happening isn't happening. If anyone pushes back, he explodes. It leaves you in a position where you just have to stay quiet and never speak up for yourself if it goes against his narrative.

At the same time, he has made many sacrifices for me. He’s brought me groceries when I was sick, paid for my heart surgery, and financially supported me through my struggles with mental health issues. That being said, I'm no angel. I don't think I've been a great daughter either. I have been absent and cold when things were inconvenient for me, and I haven't made sacrifices for him.

I would love to mend the brokenness of our relationship, but how can I do that with someone who values their own comfort over our relationship (I guess the same could be said about me too, icing him out for my comfort)? I know he's lonely and hurting from our broken bond (my mom tells me about it), and I feel terrible, but I genuinely don't know what to do.