Wasted school time

Learning to sing a song is good for their reading (they're learning about rhyming), it's good for their maths (counting the beats and sequencing) and for many, this is the precursor to learning about musical notation etc which is also linked to maths.

geekesse - you have listed some of the benefits of school singing. In the course of a school year pupils will sing songs that interest them and some that don't - but singing together is very much a good thing.

trisher

Why not make everything "optional" some children hate doing maths????

Big dilemma there, do children need to do maths or support football. It's a tough one.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000xpkm/breakfast-07072021
8.45am

Sorry, I am not able to post the link.

Jeeez. Some people can just suck the joy out of everything ?

Some of us don't see any joy in football. I suppose I wasn't bothered until I worked in police admin and saw the people and property that got damaged by the people who felt the joy.

I hate it when I hear that "everyone" "the whole country" etc are interested/thrilled/longing for a win or whatever as I couldn't care less and I actually exist and have my own feelings. It wouldn't be an issue if they said some people/football fans or something similar.

I didn't see the clip, I've stopped watching morning TV as it was all about football and particularly on BBC I think the presenters were being childish about it.

There were some children on Breakfast TV singing the Danish National Anthem this morning, I think their head teacher was Danish.
So many benefits for children learning to sing together.

MerylStreep

Jeeez. Some people can just suck the joy out of everything ?

Agree! Imagine moaning about some kids singing after the year we’ve had.

Lucca
Another fun sponge
Has anyone asked Alexa is football coming home?

I would imagine it’s more about the camaraderie than the football itself. There’s nothing to like about football in my opinion, but the togetherness you see around these big fixtures is compelling.
It’s just a shame we can’t get it with everything?

Just scrolled through the Breakfast TV link and only found one group of children singing the Danish song and one group singing "Sweet Caroline" which may have become a football song but certainly didn't start as one. None of the children looked as if they had been "forced" to sing. Indeed most seemed to be dressed in football appropriate gear and there because they wanted to be. It wasn't exactly the organised singing I imagined the OP was referring to.

I scrolled through it too and couldn't find it. ?‍♀️

It certainly seems to be a football song ! Good fun too

sodapop

There were some children on Breakfast TV singing the Danish National Anthem this morning, I think their head teacher was Danish.
So many benefits for children learning to sing together.

It was a Danish school in London.

It could have been a fabulous opportunity to teach a bit about Danemark, and to teach the children that in sport it should be 'may the best team win'. It is great to support your home team, yes, but when it come to sheer nationalism, bordering on 'hating the opposition' - then no, it is NOT the school's role at all.

MerylStreep

Jeeez. Some people can just suck the joy out of everything ?

And say there is hatred where I see none in children learning and singing a song.

Heaven forbid that children should have any fun, singing and football should be banned.
Now, what I want is Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the mind of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. -Mr Gradgrind.

I agree, trisher

Grandma70s

sodapop

There were some children on Breakfast TV singing the Danish National Anthem this morning, I think their head teacher was Danish.
So many benefits for children learning to sing together.

It was a Danish school in London.

Lovely!

I'd give my Danish friend a hug but it's not allowed.

well 'hatred' perhaps not the best word- but certainly see the others as the enemy.

They could have sung both songs, or at least a bit of it ... much better fun and to teach that in sport, the other side is NOT the enemy- and may the best side win. What would be wrong about learning about the other team's country?

DH just pointed out the two flags which are the converse of each other, which reminded me that I used to have some Danish poppies in the front garden many years ago.

well 'hatred' perhaps not the best word- but certainly see the others as the enemy.

They're not the enemy - they're the opposing team.

Only in your mind, methinks

teach the children that in sport it should be may the best team win
That is already achieved very effectively with the "house" system in most British schools. The four teams (houses) compete in more than just sporting events, and the children accept that the team with the most house points wins. The other houses aren't seen as enemies.

Are you sure about that?!?

It worries me too that so many children will almst feel like the world round them will disintegrate if England does not win...
it is not healthy.

Kali2

It could have been a fabulous opportunity to teach a bit about Danemark, and to teach the children that in sport it should be 'may the best team win'. It is great to support your home team, yes, but when it come to sheer nationalism, bordering on 'hating the opposition' - then no, it is NOT the school's role at all.

Were you there in the classroom, No!!!
So your just assuming that the children weren’t told anything about Denmark.
And it’s not bloody nationalism. It’s love of your countries football team and wanting them to win.

We have a Danish DiL and GC, no hatred in this family just banter from AC and all GC