Double Jabber tested positive

The thing that does still scare me is the Russian roulette aspect of covid in that none of us know if we’re going to be the person that will suffer badly from it albeit being double vaccinated, having no co morbidities etc.

You say that with great certainty FoghornLeghorn. How do you know?

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I believe there are trials going on to give a different vaccine as a booster. So Pfizer if you had the AZ and presumably the AZ if you had the Pfizer.

No, there will be no AZ given in the booster rollout. All boosters will be Pfizer or Moderna.

My daughter has recently had COVID although she is double jabbed …. She caught it from her daughters who weren’t jabbed. I had been with her the day before and had to self isolate …. Same applies to her husband and a friend who was staying with them that weekend ….. all double jabbed ….. but none of us developed it ….

I take comfort in that, although I may still catch covid, it is unlikely to affect me too badly as I am double-jabbed. However, I am still taking care not to get too close to people, and continue to wear my mask.

MissChateline Quite agree! Let us hope your comment does not start world war 3!

The jab does not prevent you from getting Covid, it mitigates its effects

It can happen- Covid is not going away, we have to learn to live with it. We love with flu and thousands die every year from that

I know of 2 cases where relatives of those who have sadly died were very unhappy about COVID-19 being on the death certificate. These 2 people were very ill with other problems. Both had survived covid but died within 28 days.

We are out of lockdown just now but not allowed to have any visitors . We can go to restaurants though. In a way I quite like it because these days I can’t be bothered cooking for people other than family . We just meet in cafes and restaurants instead. No problem with overstaying guests, either! Most people my age have now been vaccinated but the younger ones haven’t . Mainly because of bad publicity about astra Zeneca and rumours that it doesn’t work against the Delta strain.

I might nominate Nick Triggle for an award after this - serious reporting without scaremongering. Note the comment about why the 100,000 to 200,000 cases a day forecasts were given so much prominence.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58078900

Years ago now, when we still had to have a TB test done every year here in Denmark if you either worked with children or in a workplace that had more than ten employees, I tested positive every blessed time.

I have been vaccinated at least three times against TB and never had the illness. Finally, the doctors accepted that I have a false positive reaction to TB tests.

I don't know if this can happen with the Covid virus, but suspect it probably can.

Double jabbing is only a partial insurance.
Recently a friend aged 68, whose son is a respiratory consultant died from COVID despite being double jabbed and having no underlying health problems.

We have to accept that this is how life is now. Just be happy that you are vaccinated....so many across the world aren't

I wouldn’t go to anything regular anymore, I even still do my Pilates class on zoom. Rarely go to restaurants. Wear medical mask in shops. Don’t take any chances, I don’t want to catch it myself but I look after my 94 YO mother so wouldn’t want to pass anything to her even though we’ve both had 2 Pfizer.

Delta variant is the new dominant highly contagious strain that we’re having to fight right now, thankfully the first batch of vaccines are able to significantly prevent serious illness or death, but the longer we have people resisting getting vaccinated, the greater the chance of further new even deadlier mutations, happily growing evermore resistant to our current vaccinated state !

I think it's a good idea if we all continue to think about ventilation, as much space as possible for the situation, hygiene, and masks where possible. Then if we do find we've been somewhere that an infected person was, we'll have less chance of catching a large amount of virus than if we'd been right up close catching their saliva spray.

I have to confess that I have no scientific knowlege of vaccinations, but understand from what I've read and heard that the AZ vaccine can be "tweaked" to make it effective against variants by inserting a strand of DNA related to the variant. Apparently it is a new and different type of vaccine to the others. So presumably it would be simpler for us to have the AZ vaccine as a booster?

I too know of only one neighbour who has had COVID and she felt a bit grotty for a couple of days. I have only complied with what was actually the law ie masks in shops and public transport. Other than that I continued to do everything as normal. Including seeing family indoors, hugging, walking in the countryside twice daily and going to the shops several times a day if I needed to. I certainly didn’t isolate my post, disinfect my shopping or any of the other weird things that people seemed to be doing. Have I as much as sneezed in the past 18 months. NO……
Most of what was put out as the law was in fact only guidance and total unenforceable. I agree that as a society the images and information that was broadcast was designed to terrify everyone into obedience and I think now there are many who are still too terrified to start living again.
I fully understand the need for caution by the vulnerable but for the rest of us I think keeping healthy physically and mentally is just as important.
Now doubly vaccinated I intend to get on with enjoying life.

This is the problem with anecdotal evidence. One person will not know anyone who has not had the disease. another, like me, will no no one who has.

This is why we need the evidence from large samples to say whet the overall experience is, which is often at odds with personal experience.

I agree very much with this M0nica.

I do not know anyone who has had COVID at any time. Not family, neighbours, friends or acquaintances, even though they live all over the country, including in central London and other cities. Many have been quarantined but none has caught the disease. As far as I am concerned the pandemic never happened.

This is the problem with anecdotal evidence. One person will not know anyone who has not had the disease. another, like me, will no no one who has.

This is why we need the evidence from large samples to say whet the overall experience is, which is often at odds with personal experience.

I suppose in response to the original post I to have had both vacinnes and now have to trust them to do their job. If not there was no point in having them in the first place.
I do not intend to avoid people or going out and about as I normally would do. Covid is going to be about a while

I think the vaccine efficacy rates are completely out of date. As already said Delta and the number of community cases will have changed that.

Certainly the number of people I know well who have caught it after 2 vaccinations (calculates quickly in head - 5 so far) would suggest so. I don't know THAT many people.

M0nica

Yes, but significantly higher? If each figure tripled it would still be 0.6% and 0.09%.

To get up to 1% the first figure would have to increase 500% and the second figure over 3000%. Do you really think that is possible?

In early May the number of daily cases in the UK was around 2,000. In mid-July it was 48,000. An increase of x24, -ish

So the increase in the prevalence of the virus between May and July was 2300%.

So, yes, I think its possible.

1% is 1 in 100, compared to 0.03%, like you say, being 1 in 3333. Quite a significant difference.

Yes, but significantly higher? If each figure tripled it would still be 0.6% and 0.09%.

To get up to 1% the first figure would have to increase 500% and the second figure over 3000%. Do you really think that is possible?