Will the attitude of Vaccinated people be an 'I'm all right Jack' mentality as they seem to be increasingly booking holidays abroad. Do we need to prepare for a third wave?

I can find no evidence amongst my circle of friends that anyone is even contemplating a holiday abroad or even here and these are avid and regular travellers I'm talking about. So far all we've discussed is travelling (if allowed) to each other's homes - not even hotels - and indulging in a few away days in the various vicinities. None of my friends regards the jab as a 'get out of lockdown' pass.

www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30633-2/fulltext

I suspect that once the amount of people vaccinated passes a certain number - a critical mass? - then lockdown will end naturally because people will start to return to normal lives. I don’t think it will be stoppable. There will be too many. I don’t think people understand enough about the potential for serious mutations. It’s quite scary really.

I’ve just had my first vaccine and I will be carrying on with staying home, social distancing, mask wearing and hand washing. I think it’s far too soon foranything else.

Well I have optimistically booked a holiday cottage in the UK for July. Obviously if there is another lockdown or travel ban it will be cancelled. I chose one with a lovely garden, very private, but with huge grounds and a nearby country park to walk in, even if we can’t, or don’t feel safe to, go anywhere else. If it is ok, there are interesting places to visit, towns, stately homes, the coast.... we don’t need to go abroad.

Cabbie there is no sure and easy path out of the pandemic. Any route will be uphill and slow, and there may be diversions from it into steeper patches. The vaccination is just one thing that will help us on our way, providing a way that we can minimise the effects of catching it and the distress it brings, and the need for intensive medical care it causes, and (fingers crossed here) it may prove to also minimise the rate at which it is passed on to others.

Cabbie I feel exactly like you, at this point I don’t care if I ever go abroad again, a break in the UK will be more than enough.

I have no plans to book a holiday abroad this year and probably never again. But I would love to go away in the UK this summer, just for a change of scene, if things improve. Self catering and keeping ourselves to ourselves.
I have got two dates booked for my vaccinations though DH will be later as he is a bit younger.
But yes, generally I think, despite the warnings, there will be a third wave if people start to behave differently. After all, we have been told that the vaccine is the way out of the pandemic, yet now it seems it is not.

How long would it take without the vaccines? It took a long time to get rid of polio, diphtheria and smallpox with vaccines. Without them we would have them still.

Dear god do these vaccines help at all? The more I read the less hopeful I become. So it’ll take up to five years to be Covid free according to JVT? Not what we were hoping to hear.

Elegran always my problem at school, not reading the question properly. Re a third wave, plan for the worst, hope for the best.
GagaJo thanks.

No, she didn't Jaxjacky. She DID say it wasn't amongst the general population, but in the very old. She could well have misunderstood tho.

The question in the title is "Do we need to prepare for a third wave?" and the answer is that whatever people are doing about holidays, yes, we should in any case be preparing for a third wave. Not to do so would be criminally negligent. It is better to be prepared for a wave that doesn't happen than to complacently assume that there won't be another.

Maybe some of the people are booking for next year not this.
I hope the situation will have improved enough for us to have a foreign holiday this autumn but at the moment I don’t feel confident enough to book anything.

I’m not surprised with companies like EasyJet advertising ‘jab and go’, Saga have also stated no proof of both vaccinations, no booking. National Express are receiving many bookings for UK holidays too, personally, I would wait for guidance and where we are.
Having looked GagaJo I can find no news feeds supporting your daughters comments, did she name a source?
mistymitts there are 77 identified cases of the SA variant being closely monitored, government meet Monday, possible stricter measures on travellers.
It’s a moving target this virus, I take heart that almost 6 million vaccinations have been administered thus far.

My doctor told me not to book a holiday abroad this year at all. He said even if it was reasonably safe in the uk, which it may not be, it probably wouldn’t be safe in many other countries.
Just because you’ve been vaccinated, this only protects you, you can still carry the virus and spread it.
JVT said only recently that it would probably take up to five years for us to be completely Covid free.

I did see a news report about some elderly people who became ill with Covid after they had been vaccinated. It was thought that they had already been infected before the vaccination.

GagaJo

My daughter said that she had seen on the UK news that vaccinated elderly in the UK were still getting very ill with covid.

Anyone else see that?

She may have seen a warning by Jonathan Van Tam that vaccinated people can still spread the virus and telling them that they should still follow lockdown rules.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55784199

Having cancelled our Christmas and New Year Holiday 20/21 way back in March, we optimistically rebooked for this year. I am still not 100% sure if it will happen but, let us hope so.

My daughter said that she had seen on the UK news that vaccinated elderly in the UK were still getting very ill with covid.

Anyone else see that?

I wonder if people will have had to be vaccinated before they fly or go on a cruise in the autumn.
Many of us will have been by then so hopefully will be safe to travel.

No thankyou. I envisage this hermit-style life well into the summer then all the idiots will be congregating to create another lockdown Christmas.

I'll have even had my second jab by Easter too.

Why so ansy about people booking holidays? Why immediately assume they are all lockdown busters ready to do everyone down and kill their own grandchildren in order to get a holiday.

As I understand it, most bookings are for the Autumn of 2021 and there is no evidence that I have seen to say is is predominantly those who have been vaccinated who are doing the booking.

There are lots of us who had bookings for last summer, who just cancelled them when we saw the direction COVID was taking, It is quite reasonable to hope that the situation will be easing by the Autumn, if it has and suddenly lots of people want to go away, then the early birds get the worm because they have booked in advance, and if nothing has eased the booking is cancelled or postponed.

The Lockdown seems to be getting to some GN respondents and they are assuming if anybody does something they do not approve of they are doing it with malice aforethought to spread COVID. Holiday bookers are dreamers who want smething to dream of, whether they get the holiday or not.

I hope not, but there are stupid people out there (selfish too)
Who seem not to heed any warnings at all.You can still feel poorly with Covid, even if vaccinated, who wants that on holiday?
Is there evidence for mass bookings abroad? I know that bookings are up for places in the UK ( good)?
I won’t be booking anything at all for a while, and certainly not abroad.