Still mixing?

Of course it changes everything, and minimises risk if all of us who can, just stay at home, and if we absolutely have to go out wear a mask and keep 2 metres apart from everyone else.

Anyone who doesn't believe that is probably susceptible to all sorts of misinformation and conspiracy theories.

Lucca

quizqueen

If anyone hasn't noticed, staying at home and wearing a mask when out and about hasn't changed things one iota!!!

And ?

There hasn't been a time when there was 100% compliance with everybody staying at home and wearing a mask. That's why the virus hasn't been eradicated.

Coronavirus needs a host and would die fairly rapidly if it didn't have one. Theoretically, it could be stopped in its tracks if everybody kept away from other people for about two weeks. It's because there will always be some people who won't comply that it's still here.

Our DD was going to come home for 3 nights before the changes last week.Now she isn't and we have just face timed her and she broke down in tears.Said it's finally got to her and the main reason is seeing DHs sister and family on Instagram blatantly ignoring the Tiers and guidelines.Plus her neighbours openly discusding plans which involve far too many households mixing.She is angry and frustrated tonight.As are we.So yes Growstuff I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately some of our fellow citizens are irresponsible idiots .Why else would this brexit nonsense have ever happened*

Our DD ,DSL AND 2 GC are coming for lunch and the afternoon.

They have essentially been isolating since the children finished school last Friday (yr 2 and reception)

Some windows will be open, hand washing will be happening--they are very thorough anyway, no cuddles but will have a pleasant afternoon

We made our decision not to mix with, invite or visit any family or friends long before Xmas. Our day will be just the two of us and the only other person we may see is his friend/business partner (I've been shielded since early February and my better half and his business partner are the only people I've seen all year). Did have a few socially distanced chats in the garden with our lovely neighbour who also needs to be shielded. Regardless of tiers, laws, guidelines I am staggered at the amount of people prepared to put everyone they care about at more risk for the sake of a day or two and a meal together this year. It might be a bit of a bummer, a bit lonelier, not as much fun etc but personally I'd rather my nearest and dearest were still here for many years to come than risk killing them all at my dinner table. Whatever people are doing I hope Xmas is as good as it can be and that 2021 will be a better year or all of us

Was going to one adult daughter round the corner who we do childcare for but we are now in tier 4 so staying home. Will FaceTime overseas children and chat at end of driveways on a circular walk to the other three families.
Apparently childcare bubbles can’t socialise, just do the job! But support bubbles can even in tier 4
The daughter we childcare for has a new baby so is in a support bubble with her local sister.

varian

Unfortunately some of our fellow citizens are irresponsible idiots .Why else would this brexit nonsense have ever happened*

Could this just possibly be the last time Brexit is randomly introduced into an unrelated topic - please?

I'm going to be home alone. I originally planned to go to DD's home in Scotland when we had 5 days but was dreading the journey and starting to wonder if it was wise. Saturday's announcement put a stop to that. Fortunately DD can still go to some friends for Christmas day but I'm now in tier 4 so it's Happy Zoom Christmas. DS and family live in Germany so wasn't seeing them anyway so we'll all zoom. Pity he sent a joint present to Glasgow...

We decided months ago we wouldn't mix and are happy we did

Juicylucy

I’m not judging, but the reason Christmas has been cancelled is because people didn’t adhere to the first lot of tiers, yet folk are still considering driving/ visiting family in other tiers. I think it’s selfish why can’t they just forego this one Christmas so we can all have a great one next year. It’s not rocket science, or is it.

As I have said on another thread. For more than half a million people in England and Wales there will never be another Christmas. This is nothing to do with covid, it is simply the reality that people die.

quizqueen

If anyone hasn't noticed, staying at home and wearing a mask when out and about hasn't changed things one iota!!!

Well said! This is just another virus like all the others mankind has learned to live with over the millennia. It should not be treated any differently. Our fear is ruining this country.

Yes, my 3 year old twin Grandsons (who we help with Childcare) their Mummy and Daddy (our son) and our other son who lives alone and is in their bubble. My sons all work from home. My husband has recently been in hospital (not planned) and had 2 negative Covid tests, so we all decided to have Covid tests this week as our area was offering tests for people with no symptoms. Results came back very quickly and were all negative and by tomorrow the boys will have been away from nursery for 10 days. So we decided to have a morning together and lunch. Looking forward to it but will be missing our children and grandchildren that can’t be with us. I hope you have a lovely day, take good care of yourselves, Merry Christmas.

Well said! This is just another virus like all the others mankind has learned to live with over the millennia. It should not be treated any differently. Our fear is ruining this country

Not well said!
Not “live with” but “die of” for too many family members and friends of many people here .
Disregarding regulations, failing to take adequate precautions has meant that for far too many there will not be another Christmas. Not even this Christmas. This sort of gung- ho attitude sickens me.

Well said MawBe
If everyone had used common sense and thought of others , we would not be where we are now.

I shall be spending Christmas on my own. I'd been expecting it, so I'm resigned to it and have a few self-indulgent treats lined up.

My daughter and partner have organised a Zoom conference with my son and me. She's promised some "special guests". A couple of my cousins and friends in other countries have dropped hints, so I'm not sure who's going to turn up, but I've been told to wear a Christmas-themed top.

I might end up "seeing" more people than usual. I hope the internet doesn't crash with all the people in the world who will be contacting each other.

I've just realised it's Christmas morning, so I'll wish everybody peace, goodwill and stay safe!

And from me!
Happy Christmas! ? ?

I shall be at home with my husband and iPad. Through the wonderful medium of FaceTime and Whatsapp I shall see my grandchildren open their gifts, we'll eat at the same time and prop the iPad on the table - breaking a very important 'family rule' to do so - and in that way we'll share the day.

I miss holding and hugging my family enormously, but we have all gone to great pains to stay safe since February, so it seems bonkers to risk jeopardising our health now when we are so close to a vaccine.

SiL always told u s we were her support bubble, so we invited her for Christmas with us (we are all Tier 4, and live within walking distance), until yesterday, when she informed us she was going to all family first, apparently she has multiple bubbles and in her mind that's ok because they're seen one at a time.

Explained to her that it doesn't work like that. Felt awful but had to withdraw invite as I am 'very vulnerable' (even more so as I currently have shingles). Will ma k e a doorstop food delivery tomorrow but that's all we are prepared to do!

Sadly, it's people like SinL placing us all at risk. I've given up with her, we just have to look after ourselves.

Visiting local dd1 and dgd outdoors in their gazebo- no sides but has a heater! I’m wrapping up warmly and taking a fleece throw??
Family What’sApp call on Portal at 12
Merry Christmas everyone!

Can I just say that it is galling to hear the grandchildren playing next door? They stayed overnight. Our’s delivered presents and stood at the bottom of the drive shouting up at us. We have told my sister she cannot come and visit.

Humberbert - yes you can say that. I feel slightly niggled too, some nearby people have had relatives over for days.

Same parents have been putting huge pressure, emotional blackmail, ah well might as well put an end to this... etc on youngsters travelling long distance to visit. Sorry, but makes me cross, when so many of us have not seen family for soooo long and trying to do the right thing always.

biba70

Same parents have been putting huge pressure, emotional blackmail, ah well might as well put an end to this... etc on youngsters travelling long distance to visit. Sorry, but makes me cross, when so many of us have not seen family for soooo long and trying to do the right thing always.

Actually it works the other way too
All my children and grandchildren took Covid tests this week in an attempt to avoid my being alone on Christmas Day after eldest DGS in whose support bubble I have been, tested positive last weekend thereby putting paid to spending Christmas with them.
Of course they understood and accepted my “Thanks but no thanks “ but it was a kind gesture especially as the full test is not particularly pleasant especially for little ones (8,6,4, and 20 months)
I can’t understand why any grandparent would want to put the responsibility for infecting the grandparents on to their children, can you?

We are in Tier 4 but even before that we had decided to stay home just the 2 of us on Christmas Day. My mother is 97 and had been invited to my sons for the day and until the last minute she had planned to go there as she can bubble up with them. However she decided to stay at home and they took a meal round to her, which considering she has just had her first dose of the vaccine I think was probably a good move.
Have to say, much as I was dreading being on our own, we had a nice relaxing day. Took our dog out twice round the local park and had a lovely Christmas Dinner and it was nice to be able to do things when we wanted and sit and relax.
We did facetime with my son and his family in the evening which was nice and hope that next year we can all actually spend the day together!