Daughter moving in

No you're not right I'm afraid.

Your daughter can't live in two different households - bubbles are for single people to alleviate loneliness; her husband wouldn't fall into that category.

Riverwalk is right. You can still provide childcare but your daughter is not allowed to move in with you.

From the regs “A support bubble is where a household with one adult joins with another household. Households in that support bubble can still visit each other, stay overnight, and visit outdoor public places together.” My argument would be our support bubble is where our household (Mum, Dad & Daughter) joins with another household with one adult (Son-in-Law). From the regs “Households in that support bubble can still visit each other, stay overnight, and visit outdoor public places together.”

I think OP is right but am not totally sure?

This is an issue fundamentally not of what you can do but what you should do. This behaviour simply increases the risks of infection and smacks very much of having your cake and eating it. I don’t know the legal nicities but this is surely against the spirit of the legislation

Well who knows how people will interpret things.

But it's bending the regs to the nth degree to claim that the SIL is a single person, so can bubble with his wife at the weekends!

In situations like this I always like to consider. “What would Dominic Cummings do?”

Short answer is NO! Not allowed. Why do people wish to bend the rules. We could all make a case why we should be seen as a different case.

Esspee

In situations like this I always like to consider. “What would Dominic Cummings do?”

Well I’d never use him as a benchmark of anything - except maybe to do the opposite. Still, if enough of us bend the rules to suit ourselves those of us who don’t just look forward to life never getting anywhere normal. Thanks a bunch

Oldbat1

Short answer is NO! Not allowed. Why do people wish to bend the rules. We could all make a case why we should be seen as a different case.

Exactly - I’m just fed up of exceptionalism - lockdown is hard for many of us in varying ways and i actually despise those who think they’re entitled to be treated differently. No one is an individual in a pandemic

I agree, this is a clear case of bending the rules to suit yourselves. The rest of us have sacrificed seeing DGC nor DC at all during this pandemic in the hope we can get on top of it. As long as people insist on bending the rules there is no hope it will ever be over.

So far as I can see the only people this would put in danger are you and your DH. Do you really want your daughter and GD going back to her husband at weekends, bearing in mind that he could have picked up Covid during his work?

Maybe a slightly unnecessary arrangement?

Well unless OP and DH are completely self isolating, they are not the only ones at risk are they? The fundamental issue is about risk reduction and arrangements like this increase risk to many others in the infection chain. Still who cares about others as long as my family get what they want ?

An interesting selection of comments. (1) The idea behind this is to give mental support to daughter and granddaughter. (2) We see granddaughter twice a week for childcare. (3) No increased risk of catching Covid. Daughter is very careful regarding cleanliness etc. At present SIL works in a non-public garden with little contact with other, if he catches it, he would give it to our daughter or our granddaughter who would give it to us during childcare visit. In future SIL would give it to daughter or our granddaughter etc etc. i.e. the risk (which is low) won’t change.

suziewoozie

Esspee

In situations like this I always like to consider. “What would Dominic Cummings do?”

Well I’d never use him as a benchmark of anything - except maybe to do the opposite. Still, if enough of us bend the rules to suit ourselves those of us who don’t just look forward to life never getting anywhere normal. Thanks a bunch

Well said

Nope! I can't see who else would be at risk. During the upcoming lockdown the Mum andDad will be self isolating anyway won't they? Wouldn't want to chance it myself, but perhaps the OP and her DH are not that old. And braver than me.

Esspee Well I thought it was very witty!

I would say go for it, for the sake of your mental health. If your daughter is living with you from the start of lockdown, then you are one household, not a bubble. One household can form a support bubble with one single person for the purposes of companionship, and stay over.

If we were just allowed to do our own risk assessments, instead of facing unenforceable rules, then the world would be a much happier place.

It was, @Esspee!

If we were just allowed to do our own risk assessments, instead of facing unenforceable rules, the world would be a happier place.

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Hmm, I don’t think that would work very well!

How does your son in law get to the garden he works in?
How will your daughter get to and from her home to yours?

We are supposed to be striving to reduce risks, not looking for loopholes to justify taking extra ones.

Fromian, no, it's not OK - and yes, you'd be breaking the rules!

It seems to me that the proposed arrangement is totally unnecessary. Why do so many people put themselves, and countless others, at risk by bending/breaking the rules? No wonder there seems no end in sight for this deadly pandemic.

Why cant her husband support his wife and daughter?

What a shame you feel the need to behave like this.