Meeting one other person in a public space

Oh yes, and that’s important Delila.

Yes, I think so Puzzler, as long as Libra and her family are not part of another bubble.

Bubbling for a person living alone, particularly if elderly (needing actual support or not) is to combat loneliness I took it? So the 80 year old man can form a bubble with libra and her family as long as he doesn’t go into anyone else’s home/bubble?
Please correct me if I’ve got that wrong.

If no butchers, bakers, greengrocers etc weren’t allowed to open, then the supermarkets would be even busier.
Such little local shops in our small town have spent a lot of time and money erecting screens to keep everyone as safe as possible, and customers are limited to 2 in at a time.
It has worked well, people have abided by the rules, the businesses and workers have kept going, the town has stopped looking like a ghost town.

You are allowed to meet up with one other person outside in a public space like a park sparkling You could meet one of your children that way ( or anyone else)

Sparkling

I live on my own, can I have either of my children in as a bubble even though they have another bubble, their adult adult children who work. I dread the queuing for food again and the isolation but know I'm not alone do just gave to get on with it. Saw on the news how overworked and exhausted the hospital staff are so I do hope everyone keeps to the rules.

I’m sorry but people can only be in one bubble. As for the shopping, can anyone do it for you - a neighbour or local community group?

I live on my own, can I have either of my children in as a bubble even though they have another bubble, their adult adult children who work. I dread the queuing for food again and the isolation but know I'm not alone do just gave to get on with it. Saw on the news how overworked and exhausted the hospital staff are so I do hope everyone keeps to the rules.

My Friend suggested we meet outside a takeaway with our dinner whilst standing 2meters apart.

I agree we are not going into lockdown we are going into LSS: Limited Shopping & Socialising.

That's true Petra, but the vast majority of them live in 2 or 3 cities so they still share a lot of the issues we have. Why does having more people make it more necessary to have all these little shops open?

GrandmaKT
It's a lot easier to lockdown 4 million people than 66 million.

suziewoozie

Lucca

So it’s not really lockdown is it!

We’ve never had a proper lockdown

It really isn't! Why on earth are garden centres remaining open for a start?
During the last lockdown we were in New Zealand, where only Supermarkets and Pharmacies were open - nothing else. No takeaways, no butchers, bakers, greengrocers, playgrounds.
The supermarkets are also restricted in what they sell, so no clothes, hard liquor, electrical goods etc. Everybody survived and we know how the story ended there.
If we are going to have a lockdown it should be a proper one!

GrandmaKT

Yes, sorry, children under school age.

Quite an important difference - is it too much to ask posters to be responsible enough to get facts right about the lockdown rules? I’m just fed up with all this careless irresponsibility - it matters on a public forum.

Lucca

So it’s not really lockdown is it!

We’ve never had a proper lockdown

So it’s not really lockdown is it!

Yes, sorry, children under school age.

“You can exercise or visit outdoor public places with the people you live with, your support bubble, or 1 person from another household (children under school age, as well as those dependent on round-the-clock care, such as those with severe disabilities, who are with their parents will not count towards the limit on two people meeting outside).“

I think this is quite clear

GrandmaKT

Yes, you've got it right PECS. So any of us can go out and meet one friend outdoors and go for a walk, bike ride etc.
Children do not count, so a single parent can take the children out to the park to meet up with one other adult (a grandma perhaps? )
The rules have been published here today:
www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november?priority-taxon=774cee22-d896-44c1-a611-e3109cce8eae

My reading of the link is that it’s only children under school age or with severe disabilities who don’t count - am I right?

Yes, you've got it right PECS. So any of us can go out and meet one friend outdoors and go for a walk, bike ride etc.
Children do not count, so a single parent can take the children out to the park to meet up with one other adult (a grandma perhaps? )
The rules have been published here today:
www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november?priority-taxon=774cee22-d896-44c1-a611-e3109cce8eae

PECS; that's my understanding as well.

DH & I can go for a walk together but not with anyone else.
I can meet my friend for a walk round the local park but not with my DH.
I can meet my friend & my DH can meet her DH & we can walk round the park as 2 separate meet ups..
Have I got that right?

Daisymae

Referring to the new guidance on meeting with friends and family. As has been said this is for single households. Not for general meetups.

I’m still not clear what you mean. The people in a bubble can do what they want as they count as a single household. Meet up when and where they want, sleep under the same roof. Meeting up with one other person in eg a park is for anybody, one person from one household meeting up with one person from another. It now seems that this includes a parent and preschool child from two households can meet up.I think they are going to widen this to include a very severely disabled child with its parent.

Under 12’s don’t count in Scotland’s rule of 6 but they do in England

Referring to the new guidance on meeting with friends and family. As has been said this is for single households. Not for general meetups.

I have been supporting 2 very elderly ( 2 different houses) throughout this time. I will carry on doing so.
Today they were invited to dinner but one can't make it as she is very distressed with the recent edict.