Meeting one other person in a public space

Single people living alone can 'join' another household . A single friend of mine in her 50s created a bubble with her nephew's family so she could help out with childcare. It is as much to prevent isolation of individuals as providing for care needs.

The rules are referring to one person households, not one person from a household.

Daisymae

The rules are referring to one person households, not one person from a household.

Which rules are you referring to - the bubble rules?

Nonnapg

My daughter has just shared a tweet from Nadine Dories, Health Minister, stating that pre-schoolers will not count towards the limit on two people meeting outside if they are with a parent, thank goodness. This means a parent can meet up with a friend or family member for a walk, we will certainly take advantage of this to get us through.

Thank you so much for highlighting this, Nonnapg. This will make a world of difference to new young mums like my DD1. During the last lockdown many of them felt totally isolated at a time when they really needed support.

It tells us something that it’s the Minister for Mental Health and Suicide Prevention that’s announced this.

I have been supporting 2 very elderly ( 2 different houses) throughout this time. I will carry on doing so.
Today they were invited to dinner but one can't make it as she is very distressed with the recent edict.

Referring to the new guidance on meeting with friends and family. As has been said this is for single households. Not for general meetups.

Under 12’s don’t count in Scotland’s rule of 6 but they do in England

Daisymae

Referring to the new guidance on meeting with friends and family. As has been said this is for single households. Not for general meetups.

I’m still not clear what you mean. The people in a bubble can do what they want as they count as a single household. Meet up when and where they want, sleep under the same roof. Meeting up with one other person in eg a park is for anybody, one person from one household meeting up with one person from another. It now seems that this includes a parent and preschool child from two households can meet up.I think they are going to widen this to include a very severely disabled child with its parent.

DH & I can go for a walk together but not with anyone else.
I can meet my friend for a walk round the local park but not with my DH.
I can meet my friend & my DH can meet her DH & we can walk round the park as 2 separate meet ups..
Have I got that right?

PECS; that's my understanding as well.

Yes, you've got it right PECS. So any of us can go out and meet one friend outdoors and go for a walk, bike ride etc.
Children do not count, so a single parent can take the children out to the park to meet up with one other adult (a grandma perhaps? )
The rules have been published here today:
www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november?priority-taxon=774cee22-d896-44c1-a611-e3109cce8eae

GrandmaKT

Yes, you've got it right PECS. So any of us can go out and meet one friend outdoors and go for a walk, bike ride etc.
Children do not count, so a single parent can take the children out to the park to meet up with one other adult (a grandma perhaps? )
The rules have been published here today:
www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november?priority-taxon=774cee22-d896-44c1-a611-e3109cce8eae

My reading of the link is that it’s only children under school age or with severe disabilities who don’t count - am I right?

“You can exercise or visit outdoor public places with the people you live with, your support bubble, or 1 person from another household (children under school age, as well as those dependent on round-the-clock care, such as those with severe disabilities, who are with their parents will not count towards the limit on two people meeting outside).“

I think this is quite clear

Yes, sorry, children under school age.

So it’s not really lockdown is it!

Lucca

So it’s not really lockdown is it!

We’ve never had a proper lockdown

GrandmaKT

Yes, sorry, children under school age.

Quite an important difference - is it too much to ask posters to be responsible enough to get facts right about the lockdown rules? I’m just fed up with all this careless irresponsibility - it matters on a public forum.

suziewoozie

Lucca

So it’s not really lockdown is it!

We’ve never had a proper lockdown

It really isn't! Why on earth are garden centres remaining open for a start?
During the last lockdown we were in New Zealand, where only Supermarkets and Pharmacies were open - nothing else. No takeaways, no butchers, bakers, greengrocers, playgrounds.
The supermarkets are also restricted in what they sell, so no clothes, hard liquor, electrical goods etc. Everybody survived and we know how the story ended there.
If we are going to have a lockdown it should be a proper one!

GrandmaKT
It's a lot easier to lockdown 4 million people than 66 million.

That's true Petra, but the vast majority of them live in 2 or 3 cities so they still share a lot of the issues we have. Why does having more people make it more necessary to have all these little shops open?

I agree we are not going into lockdown we are going into LSS: Limited Shopping & Socialising.

My Friend suggested we meet outside a takeaway with our dinner whilst standing 2meters apart.

I live on my own, can I have either of my children in as a bubble even though they have another bubble, their adult adult children who work. I dread the queuing for food again and the isolation but know I'm not alone do just gave to get on with it. Saw on the news how overworked and exhausted the hospital staff are so I do hope everyone keeps to the rules.

Sparkling

I live on my own, can I have either of my children in as a bubble even though they have another bubble, their adult adult children who work. I dread the queuing for food again and the isolation but know I'm not alone do just gave to get on with it. Saw on the news how overworked and exhausted the hospital staff are so I do hope everyone keeps to the rules.

I’m sorry but people can only be in one bubble. As for the shopping, can anyone do it for you - a neighbour or local community group?

You are allowed to meet up with one other person outside in a public space like a park sparkling You could meet one of your children that way ( or anyone else)