Excuses

I do. In. No exceptions. If you’re lucky enough to have a garden, great! We don’t, so I’m not speaking from a privileged position.

Do look at the link I posted GagaJo. It shows the leaflet with the rules in it. The only people who should not be going out at all are those who are "... at very high risk due to a serious underlying condition".

If you do not believe this to be true could you read the leaflet shown in the video and tell us why not. Otherwise, you are simply misinterpreting the rules and then trying to inflict your wrongly formed opinion on others.

Please stop stirring Greymar !
I was asking a genuine question of Gaga and I do feel sympathy for the household, particularly the little grandson who brings Gaga his shoes, and sits in his pushchair.I wondered if the situation is getting on top of her, and understand totally if it is.

I agree with that point, Smileless. As a start.

I'd like to see the authorities coming down on those who break the rules like a ton of bricks as a first step Eglantine. On the spot fines even for first offenders for anyone aged 18 and over. Not per house hold but per person.

If we end up with a total lock down so be it but I do think the selfish idiots should be targeted first before we are all made to suffer.

Are we not doing " be kind" anymore? Is that just for some people?

Crossed posts......

Are flights “essential travel”? GagaJo

No. You’re right Maw, I did. Long before any flights were stopped or any lockdown. Because I had nowhere in that country to live.

At least I didn’t cost the UK anything in repatriation. You’d have complained about that, if I had.

Is it because you are self isolating yourself Gaga that you have such a problem with this?

You just can't help yourself can you? Even now.

I do. In. No exceptions. If you’re lucky enough to have a garden, great! We don’t, so I’m not speaking from a privileged position.

But otherwise, Spanish or Italian level of lockdown. Shortest way out of the dystopian hell we are living through.

If you go out and see one other person, that’s because hundreds of others are putting the time in, at home. Unlike you
No, if it was early in the morning many were still in bed
And if I go for a walk with Hattie and don’t see a soul it’s because I live in the country
I am making no excuse for barbecues for 50 people (never seen one of these) or for the idiots out in groups, but enough of this “you can walk your dog inside” baloney.
Pots and kettles. Some of us did not choose to fly home from a part of the world just over the border from a country in complete lockdown
Viruses are no respecters of national frontiers.

So you think in means in Gaga.....I ask because so do I.

We can’t trust what the government say. We need self preservation. Common sense.

I have a problem because it is obvious that the quickest (which won’t be quick, it’ll be months) way through is isolation. If it isn’t passed from person to person, eventually, it’ll die down.

Some outings are unavoidable. Food shopping for example.

That walk, where you see no one, where unexpectedly, 30 other people had the same thought as you. And, suddenly, you’ve had some contact and develop a cough. But you were safe!

It was OBVIOUS we needed total lockdown long before the government told us. It’s still not happening.

I was just thinking the same thing notanan there was a lot more walking being done on a daily basis as an every day part of our lives before the lock down.

I don't know if you have received the PMs letter and the leaflet as shown in the video above - I haven't so it is useful to see what it says.

The majority of posters are exercising sensibly. Understandably they don’t want to give it up.

So what is the answer when a critical mass are not following the rules, spreading infection and overloading the health system.

Total lockdown? Can anyone suggest another solution that works?

Exercising in a gym is totally different to exercising outside Gagajo and when people are being so restricted, any form of outside activity is beneficial not only to their physical health but their mental health too.

If exercising in the open air was so vital, gyms would have been empty prior to the virus.

People walked to the gym, people walked around town, people walked to/from the bus/train.

People were out and about. Footpaths were busy. Going INSIDE for exercise then was different. The gym nearest me is near a trainstation and got a lot of footfall from that

The UK rules with explanations

Vitamin D is important, for mental and physical health. I choose to stay in my garden but many do not have the luxury of a garden or one large enough to exercise in. Going out for exercise isn't an issue done properly.

Is it because you are self isolating yourself Gaga that you have such a problem with this?
Government guidelines and directives are being complied with by all posters on this thread ( and most, elsewhere)
They are not the same as the idiots still partying and meeting up in the parks.

I have a solo walk about 20 mins a day I meet very few people and those I do are a long way off not within speaking distance
I have not been to a shop for three weeks
I have not been on a bus for three weeks
and I haven’t been with anyone for three weeks as far as I know I am TOTALLY following the rules

Gagajo you are wrong it is safe to be outside for a short period if you are not near anyone we are not in total lockdown at the moment it may come to that ( if some people mostly big cities don’t get their act together) but for now the rule is short exercise and ALONE once a day is acceptable
The virus is not floating around in the air it is passed on by some form of contact you are probably in more danger picking your letter up off the doormat or reading your daily paper than breathing in fresh air

The infection is not in the air outside, it is in people. Walking when and where no-one else is walking won't give you coronavirus, while being inside in a supermarket could do so.

If you sit near your front window, as I do, and count numbers and when they go past, you can work out when it is a quiet time when you are unlikely to meet a soul. If you go out at a popular time, then yes, you are risking getting or spreading the virus.

I've a suspicion that in a short while this will stop being a bone of contention. There is likely to be a complete ban on going off your own premises except to buy essentials.

If exercising in the open air was so vital, gyms would have been empty prior to the virus.