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Oreo

I sincerely hope that most West Midlands officers feel confident enough to ignore this ‘invitation’.

Oh no, I’m sure they were all browbeaten, pressurised, bullied into fasting. There must have been a story in the DT/ DM every single year this happened .

I sincerely hope that most West Midlands officers feel confident enough to ignore this ‘invitation’.

In this case not by the usual directive from a government dept that doesn’t have much to occupy itself but by West Midlands Association of Muslim Police.
It just would be West Midlands Police wouldn’t it.
However my comment was written at the same time as Graphite wrote her/his comment on where this idea came from.

eazybee

The point is, this ridiculous suggestion was made and apparently treated seriously.
Far too many concessions made on the grounds of 'faith', for certain religions but not all.

This is not a concession!

Nor is it a directive (given to various institutions by think tanks or some weird government office for inclusivity.) oreo.

How totally ridiculous!

Oreo

Knowing it’s been going on for years doesn’t make it better, in fact it makes it worse.

Why - perhaps you could give a link documenting what makes it worse?

Knowing it’s been going on for years doesn’t make it better, in fact it makes it worse.

Eazybee spot on 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Who eats before sun up? Ridiculous idea and it isn’t anything to do with ‘race’ btw it’s religion isn’t it?
It’s another idea to promote the Muslim religion and I wonder how pressurised officers feel about this?
Where do you find Christian or Jewish or Hindu pressure to promote their faith in such a physical way among bodies such as the Police.
I don’t find it a lovely idea at all, in fact I find it a bit sinister hiding under the charity banner.

eazybee

The point is, this ridiculous suggestion was made and apparently treated seriously.
Far too many concessions made on the grounds of 'faith', for certain religions but not all.

What’s the concessions? Issuing an invitation? Or are you referring to people being allowed to fast at all and that maybe it should be banned?

Fallingstar

I imagine is voluntary and just for a day, is fine for those fasting to eat before sun up and after sun down so anyone doing this won’t faint away.
Is obvs an initiative to raise awareness of Ramadan and Islam more generally, but not sure it will achieve much except in serving as click bait on forums like this and so being counter productive.
In London near us the local Mosque has open days and invites all the community in to see what a mosque looks like and they operate a collection point for local food banks and have been running free initiatives for all children in a park with games and a bouncy castle. Quite often local Imams, Rabbis, and CofE Reverends get together and organise community projects.
But then these stories don’t get publicised.

Just read and felt this needs to be repeated.
I have no religion, nor want one - but lovely to read of such initiatives as this.

Fallingstar - it’s been going for years without incident and maybe with positive results. But the Telegraph is just race baiting and clearly couldn’t find enough material for the current edition.

I find it deeply patronising whether it has been done for years or not. The 'allies' do treat the groups they claim to champion in the most bizarre fashion.

The point is, this ridiculous suggestion was made and apparently treated seriously.
Far too many concessions made on the grounds of 'faith', for certain religions but not all.

Oreo

How about actually trying to answer the point made by the OP?
Which in this case is one of the many crazy directives given to various institutions by think tanks or some weird government office for inclusivity.
You certainly don’t need to fast all day long to appreciate that it must be very difficult to do ( and dangerous for some as well) but that it’s part and parcel of somebody’s religion.
In this case it would be idiotic for the police to do when they often have a strenuous and active job to do.
These offers and ideas should just be sensibly ignored by the police or any other body.

It’s not a crazy directive, it’s been an invitation issued for years and is now being weaponised by the Telegraph ,(which used to be a newspaper). As for anyone ( not just the police) working during Ramadan, there are a range of measures in place to accommodate this and I have yet to see any credible evidence of harm to the public of individuals themselves over the many many years Ramadan has been observed in the UK.

I imagine is voluntary and just for a day, is fine for those fasting to eat before sun up and after sun down so anyone doing this won’t faint away.
Is obvs an initiative to raise awareness of Ramadan and Islam more generally, but not sure it will achieve much except in serving as click bait on forums like this and so being counter productive.
In London near us the local Mosque has open days and invites all the community in to see what a mosque looks like and they operate a collection point for local food banks and have been running free initiatives for all children in a park with games and a bouncy castle. Quite often local Imams, Rabbis, and CofE Reverends get together and organise community projects.
But then these stories don’t get publicised.

Even ‘for charity’ that term often used in a blackmailing sort of way.

How about actually trying to answer the point made by the OP?
Which in this case is one of the many crazy directives given to various institutions by think tanks or some weird government office for inclusivity.
You certainly don’t need to fast all day long to appreciate that it must be very difficult to do ( and dangerous for some as well) but that it’s part and parcel of somebody’s religion.
In this case it would be idiotic for the police to do when they often have a strenuous and active job to do.
These offers and ideas should just be sensibly ignored by the police or any other body.

Yes indeed, Tuliptree.

It starts:

Non-Muslim officers and staff working at West Midlands Police have been invited to fast during Ramadan in an “act of solidarity”, The Telegraph can reveal.

The West Midlands Association of Muslim Police has said colleagues can take part in a fast for the day during the religious festival to raise money for charity.

Here's the article with the paywall removed:

archive.is/20260801230254/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/01/non-muslim-police-staff-invited-to-fast-during-ramadan#selection-3335.0-3343.159

Vintagewhine

Ramadan was in March, why post about it now Nurse undercover?

It’s obvious isn’t it? And exactly why the Telegraph is running the story.

Ramadan was in March, why post about it now Nurse undercover?

As usual with this type off thread, both the title and the content of the opening post are misleading, goady and use the intellectually vacuous slippery slope fallacious argument. Whenever there is no link provided, it usually means salient facts have been omitted - in this case even the Telegraph reports that this invitation has been made for a number of years. Somehow we seem to have survived that happening without refusing blood transfusions.

I do not want to live in a Muslim country.

Where will these politicians be when it has all gone wrong?

You are quite right, just leave us be.