Harry and Meghan. UK Visit.

Depends who your ‘friends’, are, doesn’t it MartavTaurus? Same the world over ….

It’s like a group of school bullies on here piling on
Strange, that despite a poster who was accused of inciting pile-ons being banned four weeks ago, that there's still plenty more perceived pile ons, and not just on this thread?
Not that I've made any comment on M & H, you understand.

paddyann54 I think calling Harry and Meghan parasites is a bit harsh. Grifters and untrustworthy for sure but I'd not call them parasites.

I, ve said it before,most on here are a generation who were fed the royal family with their mother’s milk …and refuse to see anything but Whats on show.
Hopefully younger generation will see past the (unearned ) medals or was Anne a colonel in umpteen regiments? Frankly ots al very Gilbert amd Sullivan and most people I know believe it’s a medieval concept out of its time.
As for Harry and Meghan …..well they,re living in your heads …if they annoy you so much why not just ignore them?
It’s like a group of school bullies on here piling on about someone else’s life !
Tell me WHY you believe these parasites are important to the lives of Joe Public ….I,m flummoxed why anyone would think their existence matters!

Is that the Royal We lemsip?

I agree with Plevey08. Nothing the Royal family does can be examined without examining how the Royal Family are thieving from the tax payers. They are corrupt through and through.

Plevey08 Sat 20-Jun-26 20:04:23

not about what you dislike in your long comment...

about what we think of the visit!

Indeed we do. And look how many years it has taken for the truth about Andrew to come out. Who knows what may come out in the future about others.

I dislike the way most people are so vitriolic towards Meghan Markle... remember Princess Diana was labelled a loose cannon. If you don't meet and conform to the Firm's dictate then it is impossible to fit in. They've managed to mould Princess Catherine to conform, she was much more malleable. However I still don't think, despite the big smile, that she is particularly happy or well. Meghan was totally out of her depth and naive when she arrived here, who wouldn't be? Her father was disloyal to her. Royal life is clearly an extremely difficult beast to fit in , master and still feel that you have autonomy. Without autonomy what are we? I can imagine that she sees Harry as being unhappy with the estrangement and she may be trying to support him. It is extremely difficult to be brought up as a royal in this country, in the current era. Some Scandinavian royals are much more relateable to the real world. They cycle around their cities, some work and their people think they are more real. It is mostly the appalling press that stir up all the animosity. Harry and Meghan haven't always made the right choices eg Oprah interview. But the book wasn't as incriminating as it could have been. They think differently now they are outsiders and why shouldn't they. The royal family isn't real to me. The extreme amount of money they make from their Duchy's, properties and land not to mention how much the tax payers cough up. They are a dysfunctional family, many are. But they still think they are entitled and expect their children to play the part they are alloted. But they are not running the old Court of centuries past. So no longer are the appalling behaviour of royals like Andrew deemed acceptable.He is still being protected by the firm and they most definitely knew about his past appalling behaviour all along. But now we have journalists that expose them.

I think you’ve misunderstood valdali. He has sued the government and various newspapers. Each time he appeared in the UK he was offered the use of Buckingham Palace. He declined.

Might be worth reading the author Tom Bowers two books, Revenge and Betrayal. Lots in there about Invictus if you’re interested. And Harry hasn’t sued him.

I don't remember him sueing his family or attempting to?

Also in the Daily Mail today respected royal reporter Rebecca English has said the palace did not know H&M were going to make that announcement this week. The king has offered Buckingham Palace and St James palace as he has done each time Harry has made a trip back for his court cases. Each time he has refused and stayed in a hotel. The Times also reports the same story. No doubt, if this was untrue Harry would sue, after all he has done it many more times in the past.
It will be interesting to see what does actually happen.

Not so valdali. It is well known how and why it was set up for him. After the army came to an abrupt end he was out up to no good and the papers published all his misdemeanours. This was given to him to get him on the straight and narrow.

Think that's a bit disingenious, Silvershadow.
Accorinng to AI and the Invictus website, it was Harrry's brainchild although others facilitated the idea for him

I don't think picking out "good deeds" is a good way to decide security.

If they get it for Invictus then why not protect Princess Eugenie at the Anti-Slavery Collective Gala (which she co-founded) or ​Zara and Mike Tindall when they host celebrity golf tournaments, rugby dinners, and horse trials for charities such as Cure Leukaemia and Parkinson's?

There would be no end to it.

(Not sure if Eugenie is still titled?)

He stays at Wolfertpn courtesy of Charles. Does nothing-good. Time they allnwent

Invictus was not set up by Prince Harry although he and the media would have you think so. It was set up by the royal family including Prince Phillip, Charles, William and Kate and a man called Sir Keith Mills who’d organised the Olympic Games. It was given to Harry to try to solve the problem of his image as a drunken drug taking playboy. Another man heavily involved was an aide to Harry named Ed Lane Fox who, I believe, still runs it to this day. Harry turns up for glad handing and photo ops, as does she.
Facts matter.

Calendargirl

^Doesn’t protection come as the norm?^

Think that applies when carrying out Royal duties though.

Yes, it's for Royal duties and although Harry set up Invictus using his leverage as Prince Harry, it won't count as Royal duties.
Maybe it needs looking at, Ivictus has done a lot of good and it's high -profile and although it's not an official Royal duty, should there be a security incident involving the family during the visit to the Games, that would raise difficult questions.

That's what I understood too Elegran
I thought it was a choice.

Harry and William were close brothers until Meghan came along. Says it all.

It is good they are all coming, after all they couldn't avoid visits to Britain forever.
Maybe it is time to bury the hatchet, though William and Catherine might not be so forgiving.
It will be a miracle if Meghan can do this in a low key way.

Is Oprah Winfrey coming with them?

I think it will be very nice for the King to see his grandchildren, maybe he's developed a relationship of sorts through meet ups on line, so they won't be totally unknown to him. He's obviously a consummate diplomat, given how well he dealt with the tiresomely deranged Trump. However, I imagine his guard will be well and truly up with his daughter in law, duplicitous and disloyal, not to mention going against the late Queen's wishes of not monetizing the title conferred, she's gone well into the stratosphere on that score forever signing herself off as Meghan Duchess of Sussex never comes near the place, Sussex that is a meaningless title if ever there was one. Since their time in the US it has been proved time and time again it wasn't just a clash of personalities here in England, although I have to say I think Brits generally may have more of a developed bullshit radar. However the scenarios of anguished employees and their rapid turnover have have played out in the US time and time again. Lets not forget the CEO of I think Spotify who labelled them a pair of grifters which is about extreme as it gets as to criticism of the desired path they were intent on forging which has veered off the amazing trajectory forecast. No to mention the thin veneer which is becoming increasingly transparent over there too.

I don't see a reconciliation with William anytime soon he's pretty steely and clearly their combined disloyalty has well and truly pissed him off. Plus his devotion to Catherine is very evident.

No opening up of a new school, for her.

She wouldn't have married Harry if he hadn't been royal. Quite a catch for an ambitious actress who sees before her a life-role with plenty of fame and money.
The fact that she wasn't prepared to stick it out when the going got tough shows she was only up for the glamour and not the slog.