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Harry and Meghan. UK Visit.

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Calendargirl Sat 20-Jun-26 07:56:13

Just been reading about H&M’s forthcoming proposed visit to the UK with their children, pertaining to the Invictus Games which are due to take place next year.

Apparently, it’s a private visit, and accommodation has been offered to them on a ‘Royal estate’, but no mention of where or if it’s been accepted.

Security issues not revealed, plus whether or not it involves meeting up with the King.

We shall wait and see how it all evolves.

Silvershadow Sat 20-Jun-26 19:23:33

Also in the Daily Mail today respected royal reporter Rebecca English has said the palace did not know H&M were going to make that announcement this week. The king has offered Buckingham Palace and St James palace as he has done each time Harry has made a trip back for his court cases. Each time he has refused and stayed in a hotel. The Times also reports the same story. No doubt, if this was untrue Harry would sue, after all he has done it many more times in the past.
It will be interesting to see what does actually happen.

Silvershadow Sat 20-Jun-26 19:19:24

Not so valdali. It is well known how and why it was set up for him. After the army came to an abrupt end he was out up to no good and the papers published all his misdemeanours. This was given to him to get him on the straight and narrow.

valdali Sat 20-Jun-26 19:12:42

Think that's a bit disingenious, Silvershadow.
Accorinng to AI and the Invictus website, it was Harrry's brainchild although others facilitated the idea for him

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Jun-26 19:05:40

I don't think picking out "good deeds" is a good way to decide security.

If they get it for Invictus then why not protect Princess Eugenie at the Anti-Slavery Collective Gala (which she co-founded) or ​Zara and Mike Tindall when they host celebrity golf tournaments, rugby dinners, and horse trials for charities such as Cure Leukaemia and Parkinson's?

There would be no end to it.

(Not sure if Eugenie is still titled?)

Frogoet Sat 20-Jun-26 19:03:45

He stays at Wolfertpn courtesy of Charles. Does nothing-good. Time they allnwent

Silvershadow Sat 20-Jun-26 19:03:24

Invictus was not set up by Prince Harry although he and the media would have you think so. It was set up by the royal family including Prince Phillip, Charles, William and Kate and a man called Sir Keith Mills who’d organised the Olympic Games. It was given to Harry to try to solve the problem of his image as a drunken drug taking playboy. Another man heavily involved was an aide to Harry named Ed Lane Fox who, I believe, still runs it to this day. Harry turns up for glad handing and photo ops, as does she.
Facts matter.

valdali Sat 20-Jun-26 18:52:46

Calendargirl

^Doesn’t protection come as the norm?^

Think that applies when carrying out Royal duties though.

Yes, it's for Royal duties and although Harry set up Invictus using his leverage as Prince Harry, it won't count as Royal duties.
Maybe it needs looking at, Ivictus has done a lot of good and it's high -profile and although it's not an official Royal duty, should there be a security incident involving the family during the visit to the Games, that would raise difficult questions.

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Jun-26 18:45:36

That's what I understood too Elegran
I thought it was a choice.

Aveline Sat 20-Jun-26 14:42:56

Harry and William were close brothers until Meghan came along. Says it all.

tabbie Sat 20-Jun-26 14:41:31

It is good they are all coming, after all they couldn't avoid visits to Britain forever.
Maybe it is time to bury the hatchet, though William and Catherine might not be so forgiving.
It will be a miracle if Meghan can do this in a low key way.

MollyNew Sat 20-Jun-26 14:37:24

Is Oprah Winfrey coming with them?

TerriBull Sat 20-Jun-26 14:31:33

I think it will be very nice for the King to see his grandchildren, maybe he's developed a relationship of sorts through meet ups on line, so they won't be totally unknown to him. He's obviously a consummate diplomat, given how well he dealt with the tiresomely deranged Trump. However, I imagine his guard will be well and truly up with his daughter in law, duplicitous and disloyal, not to mention going against the late Queen's wishes of not monetizing the title conferred, she's gone well into the stratosphere on that score forever signing herself off as Meghan Duchess of Sussex never comes near the place, Sussex that is a meaningless title if ever there was one. Since their time in the US it has been proved time and time again it wasn't just a clash of personalities here in England, although I have to say I think Brits generally may have more of a developed bullshit radar. However the scenarios of anguished employees and their rapid turnover have have played out in the US time and time again. Lets not forget the CEO of I think Spotify who labelled them a pair of grifters which is about extreme as it gets as to criticism of the desired path they were intent on forging which has veered off the amazing trajectory forecast. No to mention the thin veneer which is becoming increasingly transparent over there too.

I don't see a reconciliation with William anytime soon he's pretty steely and clearly their combined disloyalty has well and truly pissed him off. Plus his devotion to Catherine is very evident.

fancythat Sat 20-Jun-26 14:22:57

No opening up of a new school, for her.

Boz Sat 20-Jun-26 14:21:20

She wouldn't have married Harry if he hadn't been royal. Quite a catch for an ambitious actress who sees before her a life-role with plenty of fame and money.
The fact that she wasn't prepared to stick it out when the going got tough shows she was only up for the glamour and not the slog.

Charleygirl5 Sat 20-Jun-26 14:13:23

If one is almost paranoid about security, one doesn't publicise the arrival next month. One makes the arrangements quietly and arrives.

Apparently the King will see at least Harry and hopefully the children.

Apart from welcoming the pair, if they are lucky, the royals will be saying little. They learned their lesson the hard way.

I doubt if Meghan will change, she just wants to make easy money and is unconcerned who she hurts.

When they got married, she thought Harry was richer than he was and she thought, she would have somebody behind her peeling her a grape.

David49 Sat 20-Jun-26 14:08:05

If a member of my family had publicized the family dirty washing to make money, they would not be welcome unless there was a full apology given.

I believe the vast majority of families would say the same despite the virtue signalers saying otherwise.

fancythat Sat 20-Jun-26 13:53:33

I am not convinced that they wont come back here again to live.

But Meghan would have to change her ways if she wanted back into the Royal Family properly.

I dont think any sorries have been forthcoming.
At least not publically.

Padstow13 Sat 20-Jun-26 13:36:41

I sense that Harry and Meg will have a prospective book deal negotiated not long after the visit.

And a mini-series.
And a cookery series.
And lots of 'Wellness' products to market, following in the footsteps of Gwyneth Paltrow.

Just you see!

Joanofarc99 Sat 20-Jun-26 13:36:38

Well we know its a lie that they were married privately the day before their public. marriage . The Archbishop confirmed that was a lie. Also her lie that she was not allowed out for months and her passport taken away...no doubt all the Royals passports are kept safely by assistants...when amongst other trips she had the baby shower in New york. I could go on....so yes we do know there were lies told
So PP was not a paragon of virtue you say...are you? Is anyone? That doesn't justify others being nasty....and especially when he is dying
Harry knew the late Queen was dying of cancer but think he called in once quickly to see her while on his way elsewhere. He was not a good grandson when they were frail and really gave them much angst at the end of their lives. He will have to live with that...but sadly I don't think he even has a conscience about it.

eazybee Sat 20-Jun-26 13:26:09

Harry and Meghan have made a deliberate choice to live their lives since their marriage through the media since they have no other way of making money.

Elegran Sat 20-Jun-26 13:22:23

ferry23 I understood that the two boys were given a choice of whether or not they walked behind at Diana's funeral, not that Charles was "expecting them to do that walk behind her," and that Harry chose to walk. Perhaps it would have been better for them not to - but if the decision had been made for them, Harry might now have been blaming the royal family for preventing him from honouring his mother.

Boz Sat 20-Jun-26 13:08:40

There is no way, Nanna, the King will be left alone with either of that pair. Security would not allow it as they are capable of character assassination as history proves.

nanna8 Sat 20-Jun-26 13:00:40

I hope they behave, too and that the family could be reconciled. I would be very careful what I said or did, though, if I was involved with that family. Maybe set up a hidden security system to listen in and record so words could not be twisted!

REKA Sat 20-Jun-26 12:17:05

There’s also a huge difference about what individuals choose to reveal or make public and being utterly hounded by the media, who make many many people’s lives an abject misery in all walks of life!

I agree. But we mustn't ignore the fact that Meghan and Harry are very busy on their own social media page so much comes from the horse's mouth.

ferry23 Sat 20-Jun-26 12:13:14

When you reflect on what William and Harry have said about the death of their Mother, I do wonder if the King feels some kind of guilt, or regret at expecting to them to do that walk behind her.
If Diana did nothing else for Charles, she did guide him towards showing more love and affection as a parent than he received himself.
He clearly loves both of his sons, seems to get a lot of joy from the Wales' children and I'm sure would love to connect with his other grandchildren.
Without doubt, the logistics, the practicalities and the protocols for this visit have been going on for some time behind closed doors. But with his cancer battle, his advancing years and the fact that when all is said and done Harry is his son, it would be no surprise if the King is offering quite a lengthy olive branch.
Let's just hope they behave themselves.