Harry and Meghan. UK Visit.

I think Cossy has expressed with truth and compassion.

Calendargirl

I’m sure Oreo’s reference to ‘Mummy Markle’ refers to Meghan herself, not Harry’s MIL.

As most of the time around Harry, she appears to treat him as a third child, hand in hand or hand on the back, butting in on conversations in case he says the wrong thing, leading the way on outings….

Get that!

I’m sure Oreo’s reference to ‘Mummy Markle’ refers to Meghan herself, not Harry’s MIL.

As most of the time around Harry, she appears to treat him as a third child, hand in hand or hand on the back, butting in on conversations in case he says the wrong thing, leading the way on outings….

David49

Diana would have been fine if Charles hadn't been in love with and having an affair with Camilla, everyone in the royal circuit knew it. Being humiliated in this way most women would have divorced him immediately, it would have been better it she had.

I doubt very much Diana would have been “fine” married to Charles in any circumstances!

She was clearly damaged by her own parents divorce and once she had established herself properly as Princess of Wales and the most photographed woman in the world, I’m sure this on it’s own would have caused issues.

With or without Camilla, it was quite clear Charles didn’t love Diana and that she’d been carefully selected for her virtue and “good breeding” to produce an “heir and a spare” where she duly obliged!

What a horrible setup!

Oreo

If she had still been alive I doubt that Harry would have needed Mummy Markle.
He would have been a better well rounded person.
Even a chance he would have married a better and well rounded woman.

Whilst I agree to an extent, what’s wrong with mummy markle, I’m a little confused about whether you’re referring to Meghan or her actual mother,

Diana would have been fine if Charles hadn't been in love with and having an affair with Camilla, everyone in the royal circuit knew it. Being humiliated in this way most women would have divorced him immediately, it would have been better it she had.

If she had still been alive I doubt that Harry would have needed Mummy Markle.
He would have been a better well rounded person.
Even a chance he would have married a better and well rounded woman.

Ilovedogs22

Oreo

Something for us all to look forward to 🫣

I personally think that Harry is a star & its a pity that he is sort-of cut adrift, as it were!
His children, from the minute snippets I have seen look beautiful but of course they would, with their parentage.
I cannot understand why so much bile is directed against this little family; Princess Diana would be mortified!

Princess Diana would be mortified
I have often wondered if things would have gone so far had she still been alive.

Plevey08

I dislike the way most people are so vitriolic towards Meghan Markle... remember Princess Diana was labelled a loose cannon. If you don't meet and conform to the Firm's dictate then it is impossible to fit in. They've managed to mould Princess Catherine to conform, she was much more malleable. However I still don't think, despite the big smile, that she is particularly happy or well. Meghan was totally out of her depth and naive when she arrived here, who wouldn't be? Her father was disloyal to her. Royal life is clearly an extremely difficult beast to fit in , master and still feel that you have autonomy. Without autonomy what are we? I can imagine that she sees Harry as being unhappy with the estrangement and she may be trying to support him. It is extremely difficult to be brought up as a royal in this country, in the current era. Some Scandinavian royals are much more relateable to the real world. They cycle around their cities, some work and their people think they are more real. It is mostly the appalling press that stir up all the animosity. Harry and Meghan haven't always made the right choices eg Oprah interview. But the book wasn't as incriminating as it could have been. They think differently now they are outsiders and why shouldn't they. The royal family isn't real to me. The extreme amount of money they make from their Duchy's, properties and land not to mention how much the tax payers cough up. They are a dysfunctional family, many are. But they still think they are entitled and expect their children to play the part they are alloted. But they are not running the old Court of centuries past. So no longer are the appalling behaviour of royals like Andrew deemed acceptable.He is still being protected by the firm and they most definitely knew about his past appalling behaviour all along. But now we have journalists that expose them.

I think this is a pretty good summing up.

Let’s not forget, rightly or wrongly, William and Harry, pre marriage, were the world’s most eligible bachelors.

The media, as they have with many other people, did their best to destroy these brothers. (Not necessarily deliberately)

They hounded their mother to the point that she herself approached them several times and I remember one particularly angry confrontation whilst on a ski-ing holiday with the boys!

The late Queen appears to be the only one in recent times amongst the Royals who truly put “duty” first and literally sacrificed her own happiness (and indeed that of her sister and at times Prince Philip), to do what she felt what right and correct.

Sadly though, even she, it appears, would have fallen from grace if the extent of her “cover up” of Andrew’s appalling behaviour and lifestyle had come to light earlier.

Sadly, in my opinion, Meghan and Harry are not suited. She’s too “American” and truly doesn’t seem to appears to understand the restrictions and “duty” of the British RF. Harry is clearly “damaged”.

From the little I’ve heard about William, it seems he’s a little damaged too. Again much more concerned with “duty” and perceived “correctness” and I’ll bet not all in their household nor their relationship with our King and his wife, is all he would want it to be.

It’s truly ridiculous that our RF appear to have been troubled and damaged by “duty”. Not able to marry the people they really love/loved and are hounded by the media constantly.

They are simply “people”, different due to an accident of birth, but the same in every other way.

I’d absolutely hate to be any of them! Stuck in the “firm”, unable, in some cases, to even eat and drink when and what they want, photographed at every available opportunity and critiqued, in some instances, by the entire world and commented on constantly, too fat/too thin/too loud/too visible/not visible enough/wrong hair/wrong outfit.

People are even paid to “lip read” their conversations!

No thank you!

eazybee

The intended visit is not due until July 2027, ostensibly for the Invictus Games and it is unclear who released the news. If Charles has invited them so he may see his grandchildren privately, all well and good. Apart from the Invictus Games, Harry's only achievement, I most sincerely hope they do not attend any other public functions.
Fat Chance.

I think you have an inaccurate news source....they are returning to the UK next month ....July 2026

REKA

*There’s also a huge difference about what individuals choose to reveal or make public and being utterly hounded by the media, who make many many people’s lives an abject misery in all walks of life!*

I agree. But we mustn't ignore the fact that Meghan and Harry are very busy on their own social media page so much comes from the horse's mouth.

This is also true.

NotSpaghetti

^They've managed to mould Princess Catherine to conform, she was much more malleable.^

Is she, Plevy?

Malleable

Catherine met Willam at university she decided she wanted the life of a Princess and Queen in waiting, her eyes were wide open she knew what that meant. Mother encouraged her as most mothers would, she knew the rank system of the royal family and they would be in the public eye all the time like many celebrities.

I think she has done well, it's unfortunate that her health is fragile.

They've managed to mould Princess Catherine to conform, she was much more malleable.

Is she, Plevy?

nanna8

Depends who your ‘friends’, are, doesn’t it MartavTaurus? Same the world over ….

absolutely! friends in the right places =absolution, no friends in the right places= take your chances and snowballs in hell will likely fare better!

Depends who your ‘friends’, are, doesn’t it MartavTaurus? Same the world over ….

It’s like a group of school bullies on here piling on
Strange, that despite a poster who was accused of inciting pile-ons being banned four weeks ago, that there's still plenty more perceived pile ons, and not just on this thread?
Not that I've made any comment on M & H, you understand.

paddyann54 I think calling Harry and Meghan parasites is a bit harsh. Grifters and untrustworthy for sure but I'd not call them parasites.

I, ve said it before,most on here are a generation who were fed the royal family with their mother’s milk …and refuse to see anything but Whats on show.
Hopefully younger generation will see past the (unearned ) medals or was Anne a colonel in umpteen regiments? Frankly ots al very Gilbert amd Sullivan and most people I know believe it’s a medieval concept out of its time.
As for Harry and Meghan …..well they,re living in your heads …if they annoy you so much why not just ignore them?
It’s like a group of school bullies on here piling on about someone else’s life !
Tell me WHY you believe these parasites are important to the lives of Joe Public ….I,m flummoxed why anyone would think their existence matters!

Is that the Royal We lemsip?

I agree with Plevey08. Nothing the Royal family does can be examined without examining how the Royal Family are thieving from the tax payers. They are corrupt through and through.

Plevey08 Sat 20-Jun-26 20:04:23

not about what you dislike in your long comment...

about what we think of the visit!

Indeed we do. And look how many years it has taken for the truth about Andrew to come out. Who knows what may come out in the future about others.

I dislike the way most people are so vitriolic towards Meghan Markle... remember Princess Diana was labelled a loose cannon. If you don't meet and conform to the Firm's dictate then it is impossible to fit in. They've managed to mould Princess Catherine to conform, she was much more malleable. However I still don't think, despite the big smile, that she is particularly happy or well. Meghan was totally out of her depth and naive when she arrived here, who wouldn't be? Her father was disloyal to her. Royal life is clearly an extremely difficult beast to fit in , master and still feel that you have autonomy. Without autonomy what are we? I can imagine that she sees Harry as being unhappy with the estrangement and she may be trying to support him. It is extremely difficult to be brought up as a royal in this country, in the current era. Some Scandinavian royals are much more relateable to the real world. They cycle around their cities, some work and their people think they are more real. It is mostly the appalling press that stir up all the animosity. Harry and Meghan haven't always made the right choices eg Oprah interview. But the book wasn't as incriminating as it could have been. They think differently now they are outsiders and why shouldn't they. The royal family isn't real to me. The extreme amount of money they make from their Duchy's, properties and land not to mention how much the tax payers cough up. They are a dysfunctional family, many are. But they still think they are entitled and expect their children to play the part they are alloted. But they are not running the old Court of centuries past. So no longer are the appalling behaviour of royals like Andrew deemed acceptable.He is still being protected by the firm and they most definitely knew about his past appalling behaviour all along. But now we have journalists that expose them.

I think you’ve misunderstood valdali. He has sued the government and various newspapers. Each time he appeared in the UK he was offered the use of Buckingham Palace. He declined.

Might be worth reading the author Tom Bowers two books, Revenge and Betrayal. Lots in there about Invictus if you’re interested. And Harry hasn’t sued him.

I don't remember him sueing his family or attempting to?