The reform party has agreed to continue the triple lock

My guess for loony leftie is Angela Raynor!

Remember the SDP with the charismatic David Owen?
Not the same type of politic's but Reform reminds me of this lot, probably go the same way?

Casdon

Who on earth is this ‘loony left’ successor to replace Starmer you are referring to David49, I’m racking my brains here?

Could it be the silly Ed Milliband 🤔

Oreo

In any case, Reform cannot win by themselves but would have to be in a coalition with Conservatives.

Hopefully 🤞

We could be heading towards bankruptcy because Mrs Truss isn’t at the helm fwiw

LibDem council here …. Pothole hell and unsafe pavements.

Oreo

Why on earth would posters want to endure the haranguing that would ensue?
There was a thread on MN once where a Conservative poster was torn apart in an almighty pile on by a group of very left wing Labour posters.It just wasn’t worth her while to get into it.
When it’s one or two posters going against the views of the majority on a political thread it always ends badly.

Well yes, this platform seems to cater mainly for the left voters, who put others down. ‘God help them’ if their views aren’t agreed with.

Cossy

It won’t matter, because if anyone is silly enough to vote them in and they get overall control of any other councils they’ll bankrupt them all! Those running have zero experience in running anything.

Oh sounds like our labour council then, who waste so much money on stupid projects, whilst all our roads aren’t fit to drive on & pavements to walk on.

Well, David, here I am saying that I am glad to have Mr Starmer as Prime Minister in these tumultuous times. He seems a grown up in a world led by toddlers. I think that he has made many mistakes, but he is a safe pair of hands, and that is much needed at this time.
Please let me head off at the pass any "loony left" insults by saying that I feel that his predecessor, Mr Sunak , would have handled matters equally as well.
I am glad that Ms Truss is not at the helm.

Casdon

Meandrogrog

Oreo

Why on earth would posters want to endure the haranguing that would ensue?
There was a thread on MN once where a Conservative poster was torn apart in an almighty pile on by a group of very left wing Labour posters.It just wasn’t worth her while to get into it.
When it’s one or two posters going against the views of the majority on a political thread it always ends badly.

Yes you are correct. I think what has happened is that most right leaning posters do not wish to be attacked and therefore have stopped posting on N&P threads so it therefore skews the comments to look like left wingers/labour supporters are in the majority which they are not in the real world.

Most British voters are centre left or centre right Meandrogrog. That includes the majority of Gransnetters. Reform and the Greens are the furthest from the centre, so less people agree with them. It’s that simple.

That may well be but my point is that the right leaners have seemed to stop commenting on N&P threads because of the attacks.

Meandrogrog

Oreo

Why on earth would posters want to endure the haranguing that would ensue?
There was a thread on MN once where a Conservative poster was torn apart in an almighty pile on by a group of very left wing Labour posters.It just wasn’t worth her while to get into it.
When it’s one or two posters going against the views of the majority on a political thread it always ends badly.

Yes you are correct. I think what has happened is that most right leaning posters do not wish to be attacked and therefore have stopped posting on N&P threads so it therefore skews the comments to look like left wingers/labour supporters are in the majority which they are not in the real world.

Most British voters are centre left or centre right Meandrogrog. That includes the majority of Gransnetters. Reform and the Greens are the furthest from the centre, so less people agree with them. It’s that simple.

Meandrogrog

Oreo

Why on earth would posters want to endure the haranguing that would ensue?
There was a thread on MN once where a Conservative poster was torn apart in an almighty pile on by a group of very left wing Labour posters.It just wasn’t worth her while to get into it.
When it’s one or two posters going against the views of the majority on a political thread it always ends badly.

Yes you are correct. I think what has happened is that most right leaning posters do not wish to be attacked and therefore have stopped posting on N&P threads so it therefore skews the comments to look like left wingers/labour supporters are in the majority which they are not in the real world.

Whatever view we have most agree that Starmer is a useless PM I havnt seen a post that thinks he is good for a very long time.

Would he or she like to declare their allegiance now. LOL

He is a centrist I agreed with most of his economic policy 2 yrs ago a balance mix of growth and economies, since then he has made many U Turns and lost much of the support he did have. I don't give much chance of the current policies being successful and expect a horrible coalition of Tory/Reform at the next GE.

We will see what happens in the May elections I hope Starmer remains as PM because despite his weakness he is still the best we have got.

Oreo

Why on earth would posters want to endure the haranguing that would ensue?
There was a thread on MN once where a Conservative poster was torn apart in an almighty pile on by a group of very left wing Labour posters.It just wasn’t worth her while to get into it.
When it’s one or two posters going against the views of the majority on a political thread it always ends badly.

Yes you are correct. I think what has happened is that most right leaning posters do not wish to be attacked and therefore have stopped posting on N&P threads so it therefore skews the comments to look like left wingers/labour supporters are in the majority which they are not in the real world.

If the polls stay much as they are then there’s a good chance that it will be a coalition in the next GE.
That could be…
Reform/Conservative
Labour/Green/Lib Dem
Am now thinking of spoiling my ballot paper!

Oreo

You’re determined not to see what’s under your nose Casdon
And of course it isn’t right or possible to stop posters acting in that way, it’s a public forum. It’s good to recognise what’s going on tho.

I just don’t think that you keeping saying it is worth the effort, because you can’t influence other posters, it is what it is.

Why on earth would posters want to endure the haranguing that would ensue?
There was a thread on MN once where a Conservative poster was torn apart in an almighty pile on by a group of very left wing Labour posters.It just wasn’t worth her while to get into it.
When it’s one or two posters going against the views of the majority on a political thread it always ends badly.

Oreo

Allira

I don't think opinions posted on Gransnet reflect the opinions in general in the UK.

electoral-reform.org.uk/polling-breakdown-from-march-2026-latest-polls-see-continued-fragmentation/

Perhaps proportional representation would be the best way forward in the future.

You’re right there 😉

I was thinking about starting a thread about the Senedd election, because I think the result is going to be where we really see the effect of PR for the first time.
Plaid and Reform are virtually neck and neck in the polls, the Tories look to be wiped out, Labour will have many less seats, and Greens will gain some, maybe a couple for the Lib Dem’s.

If Reform do win the most seats, they will not have anything like an overall majority because of PR, and none of the other parties will work with them, as they are all left leaning. We will most likely end up with a PlaidGreen or Plaid/Labour coalition. It will be very interesting. 🤨

You’re determined not to see what’s under your nose Casdon
And of course it isn’t right or possible to stop posters acting in that way, it’s a public forum. It’s good to recognise what’s going on tho.

Oreo

Casdon

It occurs to me that is simply because more people on this thread don’t support Reform than do, Oreo. It is always the case that there will be a minority view on a thread, and as long as people aren’t rude or personal, and there are no personal attacks, everybody is just saying what they think, which they have every right to do. I don’t think this only happens on threads about Reform either, there are very different views on virtually all subjects.

It’s what I see Casdon on this thread there’s def an element of a hunt going on, tally ho there’s a fox/ Reform voter on the horizon.
Less than edifying.
And as nanna8 says in her inimitable way ‘all the sneering will let the buggers in’.

When people stop discussing the actual issues and start complaining that they are being picked on, when they actually have not directly been, in my opinion its a sure sign that their particular arguments are not strong enough to hold up against criticism

Instead of complaining:

Why not say why its apparently OK to support someone who would have taken us into this appalling war

Someone who is rarely in Clacton

Someone who is amassing a personal fortune including making videos with some anti-semitic content for money

A party who is not in fact making anyones lives better as per promises in the councils they have control of

So if you are voting for Reform, tell us why we should be voting for them too, instead of said grumbling?

Oreo

Casdon

It occurs to me that is simply because more people on this thread don’t support Reform than do, Oreo. It is always the case that there will be a minority view on a thread, and as long as people aren’t rude or personal, and there are no personal attacks, everybody is just saying what they think, which they have every right to do. I don’t think this only happens on threads about Reform either, there are very different views on virtually all subjects.

It’s what I see Casdon on this thread there’s def an element of a hunt going on, tally ho there’s a fox/ Reform voter on the horizon.
Less than edifying.
And as nanna8 says in her inimitable way ‘all the sneering will let the buggers in’.

Individual posting styles are evident on all threads though, aren’t they? I don’t think it’s right or possible to stop people posting whatever they see fit, as long as it doesn’t break the rules, people can’t be controlled by somebody else telling them they don’t like their posting style or what they are saying.

Allira

I don't think opinions posted on Gransnet reflect the opinions in general in the UK.

electoral-reform.org.uk/polling-breakdown-from-march-2026-latest-polls-see-continued-fragmentation/

Perhaps proportional representation would be the best way forward in the future.

You’re right there 😉

Casdon

It occurs to me that is simply because more people on this thread don’t support Reform than do, Oreo. It is always the case that there will be a minority view on a thread, and as long as people aren’t rude or personal, and there are no personal attacks, everybody is just saying what they think, which they have every right to do. I don’t think this only happens on threads about Reform either, there are very different views on virtually all subjects.

It’s what I see Casdon on this thread there’s def an element of a hunt going on, tally ho there’s a fox/ Reform voter on the horizon.
Less than edifying.
And as nanna8 says in her inimitable way ‘all the sneering will let the buggers in’.

I don't think opinions posted on Gransnet reflect the opinions in general in the UK.

electoral-reform.org.uk/polling-breakdown-from-march-2026-latest-polls-see-continued-fragmentation/

Perhaps proportional representation would be the best way forward in the future.

David49 was talking about a replacement for Keir Starmer from the ‘loony left’. In the absence of who that might be, I’m assuming it’s Mr C Through.

It occurs to me that is simply because more people on this thread don’t support Reform than do, Oreo. It is always the case that there will be a minority view on a thread, and as long as people aren’t rude or personal, and there are no personal attacks, everybody is just saying what they think, which they have every right to do. I don’t think this only happens on threads about Reform either, there are very different views on virtually all subjects.