Entitled - The Book that Dishes the Dirt about the Yorks

Another muck raking publication .

I feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie and I also feel sorry for their parents as it's hard to refute all the allegations .

I agree Esmay. As far as I know neither A or F are keeping themselves in the public eye so should be left alone.

It is hardly a surprise to anyone who read the papers or listened to the news of “The Yorks” relationships and unbecoming behaviour at the time. Is it?

I’m not interested, I read Spare and it was rubbish. At the time I knew nothing about MM and very little about PH. I still don’t!

Esmay

Another muck raking publication .

I feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie and I also feel sorry for their parents as it's hard to refute all the allegations .

Have you read any of the reviews or seen interviews with the author.
He is a serious historian. Cambridge graduate.
And thoroughly researches everything he does.
As this was the first book on living people that he has written he had to be even more careful to support everything with evidence.
He is also a monarchist and feels the behaviour esp of Andrew Windsor endangers the credibility and future of the monarchy.
Andrew Window was a trade envoy for the UK and undermined the interests of the UK during that role as well as squeezing every financial and hedonistic advantage from it.

Magenta8

Andrew Lownie's book came out today. I have yet to read it but apparently Andrew and Fergie are both shown in a very unfavourable light.

I can't help feeling sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie.

Andrew and Fergie have never been seen in a good light

It looks as if this Dutch company swerved a bullet.
Just when he thought his ( and hers) money troubles were over.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62k6zkd3g5o

Fergie has always been in the public eye with her many, many interviews, more so since the death of Elizabeth 11

I am listening to it on Audible. He is a serious writer, with lots of listed research and sources. I approached it with an open mind, but the chapters about Sarah Ferguson, her lifestyle of excessive consumption and the finances around her charities are truly shocking. It is nothing like Spare.

To say nothing of the excesses of the Queen Mother and the enormous debts she left behind. Or Lord Mountbatten and the Kincarra (spelling?) Children's Home scandal. Or indeed our King who furnished the Bishop of Gloucester with a house and threatened to "chase off" the victim of his pedophilia. Time to get rid of this over privileged, above the law and archaic institution.

I thought the Queen Mother left millions to her GC.
I seem to remember Harry was due to receive millions on his 40th birthday from her.

I think the future of the monarchy with William and Catherine is looking solid.

I think he will be a modern King along the lines of the European monarchies.

welbeck -
Actually before I posted my opinion I looked him up and have read his reviews etc .
I'm very surprised that such an erudite scholar should write such a book .

Quote Esmay Fri 15-Aug-25 12:16:10
welbeck -
Actually before I posted my opinion I looked him up and have read his reviews etc .
I'm very surprised that such an erudite scholar should write such a book .

Why ? did you believe Andrew wasn’t involved with Epstein and he spoke tbe truth in the BBC interview?

Oh dear -
Looks like I've opened a can of worms here .
Yes , Prince Andrew was definitely involved with Epstein and his interview was ill -advised .
Frankly,I think that he was panicking and flustered .

Quote Esmay Fri 15-Aug-25 12:26:48
Oh dear -
Looks like I've opened a can of worms here .
Yes , Prince Andrew was definitely involved with Epstein and his interview was ill -advised .
Frankly,I think that he was panicking and flustered .

Thanks for replying, it’s so difficult, I don’t like rumours in social media but I can understand why the book was written,
The Epstein friendship shows a man without morals ,

Esmay

Oh dear -
Looks like I've opened a can of worms here .
Yes , Prince Andrew was definitely involved with Epstein and his interview was ill -advised .
Frankly,I think that he was panicking and flustered .

It really is a book that you can't judge unless you read or listen to it. The level of detail in the evidence is quite overwhelming.

The author has written other books .
He's spent four years researching the life of Prince Andrew .
Prince Andrew is still alive and so is his family .
They have already gone through hell over his association with Epstein .

Esmay

The author has written other books .
He's spent four years researching the life of Prince Andrew .
Prince Andrew is still alive and so is his family .
They have already gone through hell over his association with Epstein .

I have read the John Buchan and the Mountbatten books. Both good.
Not sure what your point is?
If you read the Mumsnet thread, you will find that the opinion is that the book is nothing like the Daily Mail extracts, which may have put some people off.

welbeck

Esmay

Another muck raking publication .

I feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie and I also feel sorry for their parents as it's hard to refute all the allegations .

Have you read any of the reviews or seen interviews with the author.
He is a serious historian. Cambridge graduate.
And thoroughly researches everything he does.
As this was the first book on living people that he has written he had to be even more careful to support everything with evidence.
He is also a monarchist and feels the behaviour esp of Andrew Windsor endangers the credibility and future of the monarchy.
Andrew Window was a trade envoy for the UK and undermined the interests of the UK during that role as well as squeezing every financial and hedonistic advantage from it.

Thanks welbeck. I watched a tv interview with the author and was impressed. prince A and Sarah F remain well suited.
This seems to be a book that can be used as a serious review of the negative impact Andrew has on the Royal Family.

I agree with GrannyGravy in believing William and Catherine are leading the RF in a less entitled approach to the advantages that come with their roles. They also appear to be much more emotionally and practically involved parents than many key members of the RF have been

The monarchy had to change , because of the late queens long
reign it has been stuck in the past . There has been honourable people and far less so in the royal families , recently causing whispers , this book may stop any further less honourable actions in the future
Esmay surely Andrew brought the “going through hell” for his family himself, so tragic

Esmay

welbeck -
Actually before I posted my opinion I looked him up and have read his reviews etc .
I'm very surprised that such an erudite scholar should write such a book .

Erudite doesn’t mean well off.
There are all sorts of reasons for dishing the dirt books, however carefully researched. Money is the main one, and satisfying public curiosity is another.

Not interested in either of them and would never read the book. What I have heard and seen of Andrew makes me think he's a despicable human being and the less I hear about him and his lifestyle the better.

Hopefully Sarah will stop her tv interviews and posing for the camera , I was so angry when she many interviews of her close relationship with the late Queen after the Queen died