nanna8 I do hope you'll be feeling much better soon. Being under the weather does sap the joy from life. Hoping your election gives you the result you want and that the outcome lifts your spirits.
Your username explains how you die , how do you die?
Whatever your thoughts on Tommy Robinson this article by Lizzie Webb in the Conservative Woman makes interesting reading.
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/for-the-rape-victims-sake-have-mercy-on-tommy-robinson/
nanna8 I do hope you'll be feeling much better soon. Being under the weather does sap the joy from life. Hoping your election gives you the result you want and that the outcome lifts your spirits.
It is poison believed by many in the Trump administration who are not interested in the truth. Putin and his shadey henchmen are probably involved in it too.
I'm sure we would all like to shout about grooming gangs but most of us don't use this as a vehicle for racism. Most.
Elections and health problems are not relaxing nanna8. Thanks for coming back after so many of us posted ‘what about this’ negative information on Tommy Robinson. It helps to realise how his shouting about so called grooming gangs in isolating from greater knowledge of his crimes and motivation, can be seen
Thanks- a lot of health probs at the moment so excuse if I get bit snappy !
I hope you gt what you feel is best, nanna.
Thanks for the info everyone and I will look him up. I really hadn’t heard of him . We have an election coming up soon so our news is full of that. Interesting one, not very predictable this time. Personally I think we are safer with Labor here just now.
Many thanks Wyllow3 and Churchview for your recent posts setting out some of Robinson’s history and offending behaviour]nanna8 and Freya - has this clear accurate information influenced your views on Robinson .
He has spent his whole life cheating, manipulating , hurting people and inciting people to hurt others.
Why would a man like that throw his all behind highlighting another group of people who spend their life cheating, manipulating, hurting people and inciting people to hurt others?
Altruism doesn't seem to be one of his traits.
You are right about the journalist:
From Tommy Robinson wiki page
In 2021, he was subjected to a five-year stalking prevention order for harassing journalist Lizzie Dearden and her partner
In 2021, he was found to have libelled a 15-year-old refugee at a school in Huddersfield and was ordered to pay £100,000 plus legal costs.
After breaching an injunction about repeating the libel, Robinson was sentenced to 18 months in prison.
In June 2022 Robinson admitted gambling away £100,000 before declaring bankruptcy.
He also said he owed an estimated £160,000 to HM Revenue and Customs.
The Times said that he owes in the region of £2,000,000 to his creditors, and is the subject of a HMRC investigation over unpaid taxes."
I didn't say you were a vacuous person nanna8. I said your opinion seemed to be based on a vacuum.
He hasn't murdered anyone, blown anyone up, raped anyone, abused youg girls.
He has been found guilty of harassing and stalking a female journalist, assaulting an off duty police officer and was threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour when he started a brawl involving 100 football houligans.
It's not just his views I don't like. That said, everyone should be safe in prison, even if they do spend their life frightening and hurting other people and making enemies of huge swathes of the population. Nobody here has said that shouldn't be the case.
But I guess you get wiki? For Tommy Robinson
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson
nanna8
Australia 🇦🇺 They did show us the coronation and they show stuff about the royal family sometimes but not much everyday stuff. You can go on Utube but it seems incredibly right wing not much balance. That is probably why I dislike Starmer because that is all we get. They don’t show positives.
It does read as rather difficult for you to comment - for example give that opinion on disliking Starmer when you also say "it seems incredibly right wing not much balance and "dont show positives".
I've just checked up and although you need VPN to get BBC I player for example
Several UK newspapers do give you online access if you search them out. The Times, the Guardian both do
Some of us do not excuse any crime using a right wing agenda as a balance for our own judgement. Rather, we go with the understanding that a crime is a crime and while a sentence might be shortened on good behaviour that does include showing an ability to be accountable for said crimes.
Who is in favour of child murderers please? Or those who harm young girls?
Thanks nanna8
Australia 🇦🇺 They did show us the coronation and they show stuff about the royal family sometimes but not much everyday stuff. You can go on Utube but it seems incredibly right wing not much balance. That is probably why I dislike Starmer because that is all we get. They don’t show positives.
We don’t get much news here about the UK - just wondering where you are please?
I'm sure it's been mentioned before but I can't remember. Sorry.
The only reason this individual is interested is not because he is bothered about these abused young people but it’s another way to promote racism in this country.
I don’t want to sound harsh but you havnt lived here for years yet you make bold statements about the UK while admitting you know nothing about what is going on here.
I’m just a vacuous person. I still say if someone, anyone, is speaking up for oppressed young women, good for them. As I said, priorities. We don’t get much news here about the UK which is one of the reasons I am on Gransnet. We hear loads about the US, China,the Middle East and the Ukraine instead and that is pretty bleak. Don’t really want to hear about people in jail over in Europe. We have more than our share of criminals here.
Tommy Robinson is a criminal thug
What on earth are yiu talking about “you all stuck up for “ what murderer
I object to your characterisation/generalisation of all Muslims who are in prison as "thugs". Tarring all with the same brush.
Who is the murderer of children posters are supporting?
However, as we've seen upthread, someone who can say, "I suppose its OK to rape white women" because part of a rape service meets the special needs of minority groups, and many other similar example, is facing the consequences of his words and actions.
Jaxjacky
I’m glad TR lost his high court case, although there is a temptation to leave him exposed to threats.
Vicious and appalling comment. He hasn't murdered anyone, blown anyone up, raped anyone, abused youg girls. You all stuck up for that murdere of children, when someone mentioned he should be exposed to threats. Yet you're happy for someone else, because you don't like his views, to be exposed to Muslim and other thugs whilst in prìson.
nanna8
StoneofDestiny
Still scary that we, as a voting public, don't keep up with the news. Robinson has been very vocal for years and the subject of many news items and documentaries. It really no wonder how extremists grab minds so easily.
He lives a long way away in another country and besides, I don’t care who or what he is if he draws attention to abuse of young girls. Priorities.I don’t vote in the UK, not since 1970. I doubt anyone here has heard of him, we have our own news.
An opinion formed in a vacuum.
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