Jeremy Clarkson

I find JC mildly amusing, clever and sometimes offensive - probably to get a reaction. But these recent remarks are truly horrible.

What kind of person even thinks that way, let alone commits it to print in a national newspaper? Lying awake thinking of throwing excrement at someone? What???

He was probably basing his stupid comments on an episode of Game of Thrones where Cersi Lannister is made to walk naked through the town where people abuse her. Absolutely vile thing to say about anyone and, like too many others, tries to turn a perfectly reasonable young woman into an object of loathing for no good reason. It's misogynist and racist and about time comments like that in the press are called out.

Its easy. Be as racist as you like but throw in a reference to Nicola Sturgeon and nobody can accuse you of racism.

Simples.

Off to admire my sparkling toilet.

Anniel

The left on Gransnet is always right...if you do not agree with them you are wrong and uneducated. I read all your posts, being told about the KKK as though we are ignorant know nothing individuals. Now Camilla must be careful who she invites to palace parties.I thought there were other workers drawing up lists of invitees. I take as much interest in Jeremy Clarkson's likes and dislikes and pronouncements as I do of those of the England football manager. I read Gransnet but sometimes the usual people are outraged by something that somebody who loves to stir the populace has to say. Volver sticks around although cleaning her toilet is intellectually more stimulating than reading anything that people who disagree with her have to say. How insulting can anyone get? It is certainly not an intellectual level of argument in my opinion.

Anniel

The left on Gransnet is always right...

I don't want to be argumentative for the sake of it, but I have to ask why you think it's only the 'left' who have a problem with Clarkson's comment?

I read Gransnet but sometimes the usual people are outraged by something that somebody who loves to stir the populace has to say.

The 'pot-stirrer' has crossed the boundaries of what most people, left, right or centre, believe is acceptable in public debate. Our PM himself (not generally considered to be of the Left) has pondered why someone can be so "distorted by hate".

Volver sticks around although cleaning her toilet is intellectually more stimulating than reading anything that people who disagree with her have to say. How insulting can anyone get? It is certainly not an intellectual level of argument in my opinion.

Anniel

The left on Gransnet is always right...if you do not agree with them you are wrong and uneducated. I read all your posts, being told about the KKK as though we are ignorant know nothing individuals. Now Camilla must be careful who she invites to palace parties.I thought there were other workers drawing up lists of invitees. I take as much interest in Jeremy Clarkson's likes and dislikes and pronouncements as I do of those of the England football manager. I read Gransnet but sometimes the usual people are outraged by something that somebody who loves to stir the populace has to say. Volver sticks around although cleaning her toilet is intellectually more stimulating than reading anything that people who disagree with her have to say. How insulting can anyone get? It is certainly not an intellectual level of argument in my opinion.

What a very strange and rather superior world view.
Still, my opinion isn’t worth being allowed into discussions on this forum because I’m not right wing.

I've always seen myself as a moderate but apparently I'm a far left not worth listening too because it's clear that sexism and racism are still a thing that need shouting at till they go away.

No time for the man. The Sun obviously passed it, they take responsibility too, but obviously wanted to stir things up
just a bit more, it sells papers. Never read the Sun, headlines bad enough.
The speaking of anyone in that way is awful. You say its rascist, how does that apply to Nicola Sturgeon?
Anniel, the far left are not worth taking notice of, you couldn't engage in an intelligent conversation with them, entrenched in their bitterness.
The only programme that I have watched JC in was the one about farming that he did, as no one else did it from the farmers perspective.

After reading so many comments about my reference to the KKK, I think that perhaps I should apologise for making the assumption that those who lived through the period of the Civil Rights movement, Martin Luther King and the groups that resisted the movement like the KKK, could not fail to have imbibed this period and were fully aware of the history of the black movement as a result.

I was wrong.

It explains a lot.

Do we wonder why there is so much misogyny, violence and abuse daily against women and girls.? Or do we take it as such an everyday experience that it’s acceptable? Even many women blame the victims and support pondlife like Clarkson in their hateful rants.

It is certainly not an intellectual level of argument in my opinion.

Whereas dredging up someone's past username to try to belittle them, then typing random syllables about it, is the height of intellectual rigour?

That's not disagreeing. That's being infantile.

I can get really insulting.

You should see me on a good day.

The left on Gransnet is always right...if you do not agree with them you are wrong and uneducated. I read all your posts, being told about the KKK as though we are ignorant know nothing individuals. Now Camilla must be careful who she invites to palace parties.I thought there were other workers drawing up lists of invitees. I take as much interest in Jeremy Clarkson's likes and dislikes and pronouncements as I do of those of the England football manager. I read Gransnet but sometimes the usual people are outraged by something that somebody who loves to stir the populace has to say. Volver sticks around although cleaning her toilet is intellectually more stimulating than reading anything that people who disagree with her have to say. How insulting can anyone get? It is certainly not an intellectual level of argument in my opinion.

Well if anyone thought the Sussex’s were exaggerating this rather proves their point!

Has anyone commented on JC's attempt to excuse himself by saying he is horrified for having caused hurt in his column? Pathetic or what?

The man has always been an enormous ego and probably thought his column was highly amusing. Who cares about his opinion anyway? This time he wasn't writing about cars or farming which he knows more about than I do.

He simply wants to appeal to his laddish followers by mentioning a naked Meghan appearing in his dream. But all he has done is expose his racism and mysoginism.

This episode reminds me of when Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand tried to trick an elderly Andrew Sachs when he had dementia? They thought it was just a funny joke whereas anyone with a sense of decency could see it was cruel and nasty. At least the two got banned from appearing on the BBC for a while (though not for long enough IMHO).

I am not surprised that the Sun publishes it without hesitation but why didn't Laura Kuenssberg ask the Sun's female editor last Sunday morning on her programme to justify its publication?

It appears that racism and mysoginy are accepted now and those who abhor them are "snowflakes".

👏 Doodledog Absolutely hateful, misogynistic comments but not necessarily racist.

What DD said:
‘The comments made to Baggs for not picking up on a KKK reference are unreasonable if in fact Clarkson's reference was to GoT, and not the KKK. Regardless of whether he was picking up on a race-related thing or a fictional 'fantasy' one, what he said was appalling, which is what Baggs was saying, I think.’

Blossoming

I used to find him mildly amusing and sometimes offensive, but his latest rant in the pages of The Sun is just sick beyond belief.

www.thenational.scot/news/23197956.jeremy-clarksons-unhinged-rant-nicola-sturgeon-meghan-markle/

I wouldn’t want to be in the same room with him, but I don’t wish him any harm. The fact he seems to hate women is just so sad.

Wyllow3

My apologies to the Mail.

Don't apologise.

The Mail has reported it but seems to be relishing in repeating what he said several times.

And it has prompted a response from Prime Minister Rishi Sunak who today asked what 'makes somebody so distorted by hate that they end up writing these things?'

My apologies to the Mail.

Doodledog

Wyllow3

This time - she is the victim. But it exposes his underlying mind set/racism that he would say that in that disgusting way.

He is a really nasty piece of work, isnt he! what's scary is clearly we know others do feel like him or the Mail wouldn't have published it. I hope action is taken against the mail. its not good enough they say, "We are just reporting what is said". Unless there is the unlikely but desirable result that Mail readers call him out on s significant scale.

Reluctant as I am to defend the Mail, his column was published in the Sun.

The Sun, that is the paper which blamed the Hillsborough disaster on the fans.

I'm amazed anyone reads it.

hollysteers

I sang at a family wedding he attended and sat next to his mother, who was v. nice.
I’m afraid he gives Yorkshire men a bad name, but then I can’t stand Paxo or Michael Parkinson as well as a few I can’t remember.

Not all Yorkshire men - have you watched Peter Wright, the Yorkshire Vet?

Wyllow3

This time - she is the victim. But it exposes his underlying mind set/racism that he would say that in that disgusting way.

He is a really nasty piece of work, isnt he! what's scary is clearly we know others do feel like him or the Mail wouldn't have published it. I hope action is taken against the mail. its not good enough they say, "We are just reporting what is said". Unless there is the unlikely but desirable result that Mail readers call him out on s significant scale.

Reluctant as I am to defend the Mail, his column was published in the Sun.

hollysteers

I sang at a family wedding he attended and sat next to his mother, who was v. nice.
I’m afraid he gives Yorkshire men a bad name, but then I can’t stand Paxo or Michael Parkinson as well as a few I can’t remember.

Amazing, isn't it, how some lovely women have such abominably behaved sons.

I remember that she made the first Paddington Bear soft toy.

The very first Paddington bear soft toy was designed in the UK by a lady called Shirley Clarkson. She made it as a Christmas present for her children, Joanna and Jeremy Clarkson

Jeremy Clarkson's comments are so wrong on every level. He has let himself down as a broadcaster, presenter, columnist, man, English person. I am not a fan of H & M but he has insulted Harry's wife beyond the pale and has presented them with the very evidence they were talking about in their docuseries. Shocking.

This time - she is the victim. But it exposes his underlying mind set/racism that he would say that in that disgusting way.

He is a really nasty piece of work, isnt he! what's scary is clearly we know others do feel like him or the Mail wouldn't have published it. I hope action is taken against the mail. its not good enough they say, "We are just reporting what is said". Unless there is the unlikely but desirable result that Mail readers call him out on s significant scale.

Disgusting as it is, it’s not particularly racist.
Fraternisers in France at the end of WW2 had this shaming treatment as well as Irish people who acted in the same way.