Boris and Carrie have got married!

And all right wing posters are determined to see nothing wrong in Johnson’s moral turpitude.

There may be a tiny minority on their third marriage, but I suspect that you would be very hard pushed to find a poster on their third marriage, who encouraged and paid for an abortion. Who encouraged but failed to obtain another abortion, who only seems to have a very vague idea on the number of children they have. Who have been sacked at least twice for lying, and who continues to have only a very weak grasp on the concept of truth.

Callistemon

Happy to oblige!

Callistemon is that really Hugh Jackman? He looks different maybe it’s the hat. ?

Perhaps we should stick with just ‘bitchy’ comments then, since all left wing posters are determined to call her a mistress
( as if it has anything to do with the fact that they were officially engaged and have just got married.) Which this whole OP is about after all.How many of you are on your third marriage btw? Many people are after all, it doesn’t make them awful ( for that reason.) Jeremy Corbyn is, and had girlfriends including Dianne Abbott.
Insult Johnson all you like, but make it for the right reasons, as some of the comments on here are laughable.....and yes, like something from a different century.

lemongrove

How very old fashioned some of your comments are, not to mention both bitchy and wrong. Carrie Symonds was not a
‘Mistress’ but a girlfriend before she became engaged to Johnson. She had a responsible and well paid job and wasn’t ‘kept’ ( which is what a mistress would be.) Neither was he stringing her along just as an affair.Many men have affairs with somebody before they divorce their wives, if they loved their wives or had worthwhile marriages that wouldn't happen.

Wasn’t she sacked from that job for some sort of expenses fiddle? Or was that a previous job?

Hilarious that you think you have your finger on the pulse of the modern world. You should pop over to MN with that theory. I would buy popcorn for that exchange.

For what it's worth, Lemon - I think the being "kept" part is somewhat archaic and the meaning of the word "mistress" has evolved.

Oxford dictionaries, for example, now just says "a woman (other than the man's wife) having a sexual relationship with a married man."

I think it still sounds odd these days - but it does suggest a longer involvement than a "casual affair" or one-night thing - though all of these can of course be devastating to the wife and wider family.

I am afraid its you who is old fashioned lemongrove, that view of women being responsible for their husbands infidelity went out with the ark.

Symonds was his mistress pure and simple. That is the colloquial and accepted term for a woman having a sexual relationship with a married man.

Johnson was married with 4 legitimate children. He married his wife Marina Wheeler in 1993 when she was pregnant with their first child.

Johnson began his affair with Symonds sometime before 2018 and finally divorced Wheeler in 2020. Symonds lived in No 10 from the time Johnson became PM, so yes she was a kept woman. Largely by the tax payer.

How very old fashioned some of your comments are, not to mention both bitchy and wrong. Carrie Symonds was not a
‘Mistress’ but a girlfriend before she became engaged to Johnson. She had a responsible and well paid job and wasn’t ‘kept’ ( which is what a mistress would be.) Neither was he stringing her along just as an affair.Many men have affairs with somebody before they divorce their wives, if they loved their wives or had worthwhile marriages that wouldn't happen.

I know what name I called the woman who slept with my ex husband and it wasn’t mistress ?

GillT57

Fiance/mistress. However you spin it she was sleeping with another woman's husband. While said wife was battling cervical cancer.

And to add more insult the Catholic Church have declared it wasn't a marriage.
Mr Johnson and the current Mrs Johnson have no shame.

Fiance/mistress. However you spin it she was sleeping with another woman's husband. While said wife was battling cervical cancer.

Happy to oblige!

Can we get back to Hugh Jackman now, please?

Saetana

I really do not want to spell this out again but...Boris's first two marriages were in the Anglican Church, they do NOT count as Catholic marriages in the eyes of the Catholic Church. Carrie is a Catholic, Boris was also baptised as a Catholic - as his former marriages did not count in the eyes of the Catholic Church, this is why he and Carrie could marry in the Catholic Church. So far as the Catholic Church is concerned they are both being married for the first time in the faith. And, once again, Carrie was NOT Boris's Mistress, she was his fiancee and I have a serious issue with other women trying to make her less by using this term!

What a strange view of morality.
Very Henry 8th, dismiss the inconvenient first wives because they married him in Anglican services, so the marriages don’t count.
Re-frame Carrie Symonds as a fiancée to make her relationship with Johnson ‘respectable’. As others pointed out, he was married to Marina when his sexual relationship with CS began. Call me old fashioned but the term Mistress fits the Bill.

She was having an affair with him whilst he was married is that any better. The responsibility for that infidelity is actually Johnsons as he was the married one. But am not sure you understand the meaning of sisterhood if you think it involves creating an alternative reality.

What was she before they were engaged then? A non existent marriage breaker?

What a load of nonsense the Catholic Church spouts.

I really do not want to spell this out again but...Boris's first two marriages were in the Anglican Church, they do NOT count as Catholic marriages in the eyes of the Catholic Church. Carrie is a Catholic, Boris was also baptised as a Catholic - as his former marriages did not count in the eyes of the Catholic Church, this is why he and Carrie could marry in the Catholic Church. So far as the Catholic Church is concerned they are both being married for the first time in the faith. And, once again, Carrie was NOT Boris's Mistress, she was his fiancee and I have a serious issue with other women trying to make her less by using this term!

I don't think the term "mistress" is inappropriate, even today, for a woman who is in a sexual relationship with another woman's husband, which I gather the latest Mrs Johnson was before becoming a fiancee.

@DillytheGardner Now that is totally sexist and not something I would have expected from another woman. Carrie was his fiancee, not his mistress, which is in any event an old fashioned term that needs to die NOW! Why is it most often other women who criticise a woman - what happened to the sisterhood?

Congratulations Boris and Carrie - can't blame them for going for a quiet wedding, anything else would have been a media circus. Her dress was beautiful - Boris as usual looked like a well-dressed tramp, but he wouldn't be Boris otherwise

LauraNorder

Does thinking about it count?

A damp meadow with the Australian drover

Does thinking about it count?

Apparently yes, it does.
So hands off Hugh Jackman!

He could go on Mastermind with "getting away with it" as his specialist subject but I suspect his general knowledge would not be good enough.

I care not a jot for the restrictions or otherwise of the Catholic Church, cannot find a place in my life for any organised religion, thankfully. But, Johnson has done it again; get everyone arguing about canon law and take Cummings revelations off the front pages. He will soon run out of things to distract the Great British Public, but he is good at it, I will give him that.

Whatdayisit yesterday I had a right old moan about the Newsletter issue and this thread on the Site Stuff board