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Everything - well nearly everything - is right in this country

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Opal Tue 03-Dec-19 14:04:03

Don't know about you but I'm getting so fed up with all of the doom mongers and nay sayers on here, I thought I'd start up a thread for the positive amongst us to list everything that we think is great about this country.

My thoughts - I love the beautiful British countryside and the fact that it looks different in every season. I love our friendly village pubs that serve good beer and good pub grub. I love our coastline, some of the most beautiful in the world.

Over to you guys - let's keep this thread going ........

blondenana Fri 06-Dec-19 21:12:27

Hetty58 i so agree with you, must be nice to see through rose coloured glasses, everything must look perfect

M0nica Fri 06-Dec-19 22:38:18

I have had a brilliant idea, at least I think it is.

Next time any one starts a misery thread, we all make totally irrelevant posts saying how wonderful everything is.

It is clear that quite a number of posters have neither properly read the title or OPs original post. or may be the things they post that seem so miserable to many of us, are the things that make them happy - except they cannot be happy because they enjoy being miserable. What very confusing lives they must lead,

Opal Fri 06-Dec-19 22:56:57

Thanks to all who have given positive remarks, but to those of you who just can't help but spread your misery, even when it is not asked for, I think it is you who should take a long hard look at yourselves. Slate me all you like, I really couldn't give a s**t, but the fact that you criticise and insult others simply because they have responded positively to a positive thread just about sums you all up. Miserable ****s.

Eloethan Sat 07-Dec-19 01:22:55

Opal You refer to posters who "spread their misery" - apparently we are required to toe the party line if we want to contribute to this thread.

In whitewave's thread, the people who took exception to her comments were extremely rude. The trend has continued on this thread as the backbiting and personal attacks continue:

"they [i.e. those who - against instructions - have the nerve to express a different opinion] can't help themselves".

"doom mongers slagging off our country" (it isn't just your country and it isn't about "slagging off" our country. It is about feeling sad and angry that many of its citizens and its valued institutions are suffering. It is a good deal more negative to say words to the effect that "there has always been poverty", "it was worse in the "old days" ", etc, etc, than to aspire to better lives for all Britain's citizens. If it had been up to the Conservatives after WW2, we wouldn't have an NHS or compulsory secondary education, amongst many other things.)

"spite and vitriol and negativity" (of course, referring to anyone who has the effrontery to bring a touch of realism into this hap-hap-happy thread - and where exactly is the "spite" and "vitriol"?)

"miserable beggars"

"whiners"

"sour pusses".

You finish your post on a very aggressive and confrontational note - "couldn't give a shit" about "miserable shits". And then you complain about being insulted - really!

sunseeker Sat 07-Dec-19 06:16:22

Isn't it possible to be glad to live in UK whilst still seeing its faults? Nothing is completely good or completely bad. I love living in UK, would never consider living anywhere else, but still acknowledge we have problems.

I am glad to live in a country where I have freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom to wear what I wish.

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 06:27:25

Those who can’t stand to hear a different take on their narrow mindedness and hit out with name calling - moaners, miseries etc are the ones who close their eyes and ears - they really don’t like freedom of speech or opinion. Yes we can all pick out nice things about wherever we live and be happy about that doesn’t mean we have to be all superior about it. This is supposed to be a discussion.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 07-Dec-19 06:55:37

Those who can’t stand to hear a different take on their narrow mindedness and hit out with name calling - moaners, miseries etc are the ones who close their eyes and ears

Do you not suspect that this describes you as much as it describes anyone else.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 07-Dec-19 06:58:01

Hetty58, rose tinted glasses, you can buy them in Glastonbury and they are amazing. I tried a pair on and everything is sparkly and lovely and even the black clouds are beautiful to look at. A lot like some of them comments on this thread.

It is a lovely country for some but not for those on the streets and as someone said everyone should have food and housing.

Take off the glasses.

Nico97 Sat 07-Dec-19 08:22:24

Eloethan - I suggest if you're going to quote words used by me you don't miss off the rest of the sentence, which was
It's so good not to click in and find the usual spite/vitriol/negativity that accompanies many of the political threads,.

I wasn't referring to anyone contributing to this hap-hap-happy thread, (your words). God forbid anyone on this forum trying to inject some lighthearted thoughts - it obviously rubs up the usual doom and gloom merchants.

M0nica Sat 07-Dec-19 09:04:29

It is a lovely day today, cloudy but no wind so I am going to indulge in my favourite garden task - raking leaves.

There is something about their colour and smell that just calms me, elates me and makes my heart sing.

And in the spirit of goodwill on this happy thread, I am telling you this so that those who are only happy when contemplating the world's ills can curl up in a chair with a cup of cocoa and commiserate with all those people who are unable to share my pleasure because they hate raking leaves.

Nico97 Sat 07-Dec-19 09:08:50

Love it MOnica - happy leaf raking. We're decking the halls so another happy bunny here smile

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 09:23:35

I’m not closing my eyes and ears I can see the positives and have commented on them but those who call people “miserable shits” for pointing out that not everything is marvellous and we aren’t that superior aren’t exactly brimming with the milk of human kindness are they?

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 09:25:01

Yes I’m going to get my decs out and do some gardening plus sort out stuff for the charity shop and food bank and I’m very grateful I’m not having to use their services - that’s positive surely?

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 10:07:30

Happy leaf raking M0nica
I should get out there and do some but I intend to sit indoors with a cup of tea and write Christmas cards! smile

We sent some stuff to the charity shop and put some Christmassy food and three boxes of cards into the charity collection for the elderly at the supermarket yesterday - or is that virtue signalling? and feeling thankful, like crystaltipps that we don't have to use it. And thankful for the people who were doing the collection.

Doodle Sat 07-Dec-19 15:07:44

Why is it that people can’t accept a happy thread with some positive thoughts without saying we are all looking through rose coloured glasses. Do all you posting on the other threads think you are the only people in the world who care about others being hungry or starving or being homeless.
I think we all (no matter how you vote) have a loved one (or more than one) who are suffering in some way. Some trauma, dread, pain anxiety and worry in our lives. We are not living in cloud cuckoo land just trying to have a little lighthearted thread. Doesn’t mean we don’t care, doesn’t mean we don’t understand suffering just means that we can also spread some joy and happiness and gladness in this world too.
My decs are already up. I love the lights on the dark evenings. My tree is tiny with lots of baubles.
I love this country (can see its faults) but would not want to live anywhere else except perhaps Switzerland at Christmas coz I love snow ⛄️

GracesGranMK3 Sat 07-Dec-19 15:13:27

...just means that we can also spread some joy and happiness and gladness in this world too.

Now wouldn't that be lovely if that was why this thread was started? However, it begins by calling other members doom-mongers and naysayers. Is that really starting a thread about the soft, nice, cuddly stuff you want or is it there to goad?

inkcog Sat 07-Dec-19 15:32:25

is it possible to spread joy via a thread on a forum? I dunno really?
Are people inpacted by reading about somebody in a garden or decorating a tree.....I have no idea.

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 15:43:52

Of course you can have a “little light hearted thread” but don’t expect everyone to agree with everything you say or call them unpleasant names when they don’t. Ignore those you don’t like if that’s the case. It’s all very well saying you love the freedoms but then complain when others exercise that freedom. Saying “everything is wonderful” when it blatantly isn’t is bound to cause controversy.

M0nica Sat 07-Dec-19 15:47:54

GGM3. those who have said that there are doom-mongers and naysayers on GN are not calling any individual member by those names. They are simply describing what always happens when someone starts a cheerful, or light-hearted thread. Soon after they post it someone always comes on and starts reminding us of all of the people who are sad, or ill;, or starving and can not participate in what ever pleasure we are celebrating. Why? None of us is unaware of these things, no one denigrates anyone whose life is les than pleasureable. Many of the pleasures described are described by people who are grasping at these simple pleasures to make otherwise unbearable lives bearable.

Earlier I posted on the joys of leaf raking- I have spent over 2 hours doing this today and I feel invigorated by the exercise.

What should I have done to make this innocent activity acceptable those who like raining on other peoples parades? Not done it at all? Yes, that would have made me miserable, gales are forecast for tonight and to see my neat piles of leaves blown round the garden again would have throughly p*ssed me off. Or perhaps I should have meditated on those less fortunate than me, or invited someone disabled to help me?

What would be gained by any of these alternaatives? A sense of smug self satisfaction, because I had removed all the pleasure from a simple action and done it while thinking of all those that cannot rake leaves? How would that have actually helped anyone who was unhappy?

How would you feel if there was a thread about some tragedy -a natural disaster or family loss, and someone posted that in the nature of life this is a very small disaster in a huge population so perhaps we should be cheerful because it didn't happen more often. Would that be acceptable. If not, why not?

GracesGranMK3 Sat 07-Dec-19 15:59:13

GGM3. those who have said that there are doom-mongers and naysayers on GN are not calling any individual member by those names.

I appreciate that they aren't M0nica but I am not sure it's relevant to the question I asked.

wicklowwinnie Sat 07-Dec-19 16:01:23

A million thanks Opal, for your thread. Such a change from all the miserable rants and unpleasantness we get on Gransnet. I am so glad that some of them do not live next door to me.
My late mother was a very smiling and cheerful lady and she had a very hard life, but always felt happy to be alive. Thank you again Opal.

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 16:02:57

Obviously if someone posted the above hypothetical comment others would soon come along to remind them that, whilst that may be the case, it does not detract from the sad feelings one might have at that moment. No one is saying you can’t discuss small pleasures , but that wasn’t the tone of the OP which was that everything is fine with this country. When someone mentioned that everything might be ok for some people but not for others it was greeted with howls of abuse, thus setting the tone . Maybe the thread should have been called something else like “things that make me happy” and you could have listed fluffy kittens and such like which would have been less goady.

Sparklefizz Sat 07-Dec-19 16:09:29

Totally agree wicklowwinnie and Doodle.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 07-Dec-19 16:10:57

Monica, swept ours up yesterday in preparation for the Handyperson to come and jet hose the paths and steps. Lovely being 72 and able to access this service run by the council. Is that light hearted enough for everyone.

inkcog Sat 07-Dec-19 16:35:28

wicklow, your mother sounds lovely.