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Lilypops Sat 16-Nov-19 22:42:02

Having just watched the interview with Emily Maitlis, I just cannot make my mind up about him , I find it strange that he could not recollect having that photo taken with the girl with his arm around him , I thought he was very cautious with his answers, What do you all think ?

Gonegirl Tue 26-Nov-19 09:58:01

Today Prince Andrew comes face to face with Charles for the first time since this kicked off. Would love to be a fly on the wall.

merlotgran Tue 26-Nov-19 10:47:34

So would I, Gonegirl

#shithittingfan

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 10:49:14

Apparently Beateice is distraught as she tried to advise against That Interview.

I do feel sorry for his daughters.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 10:50:03

Thank goodness Charles is the older brother.

Anniebach Tue 26-Nov-19 10:52:25

It has been reported Beatrice and Fergie encouraged him to
hold the interview

merlotgran Tue 26-Nov-19 10:54:32

Sad that Charles has never really had the support of his parents in his endeavours. Philip has only thinly disguised his disappointment and I've often wondered if there's a touch of jealousy where the Queen is concerned.

merlotgran Tue 26-Nov-19 10:55:58

Those reports have now been discounted, Anniebach

I think there's been a degree of 'making it up as they go along'

Gonegirl Tue 26-Nov-19 10:56:14

No! The Queen wouldn't be jealous of Charles!

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 11:03:47

It has been reported that Andrew insisted on going ahead with the interview despite advice from Beatrice and a close aide, a PR man who has now quit.

trisher Tue 26-Nov-19 11:12:58

OMG some of the assumptions made and the extreme conclusions drawn by some on this thread are amazing. Firstly I never suggested that the armed forces were linked to paedophilia (and as I understand it PA would not even be guilty of any such offence in this country, the age of consent being 16 not 17). If you chose to draw that conclusion perhaps it says more about you and your life experiences than it does me. I did say that the armed forces are not appropriate or good places for some people to spend time. I would imagine there are many jobs that do not suit some people and that only reinforce existing damage rather than helping to change attitudes So I am certainly not going to apologise for anything I said. The only thing that would make me apologise would be some definite proof that his service helped PA change his attitudes and become a better person and we all know there isn't any.
It constantly amuses me that all the supporters of the RF are up in arms about this whole thing. What on earth do they think happens when you elevate someone to the status of RF? Even perfectly nice respectable people can become nasty and agressive if they are put in a position of power.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 12:16:21

If you chose to draw that conclusion perhaps it says more about you and your life experiences than it does me.

When in a pit, why keep digging trisher?
The insults are coming thick and fast - now insulting all the posters who questioned your first post!!^

First you say you have a certain amount of sympathy for Andrew - does that say more about you and your life experiences than it does the rest of the posters who disagreed with you?
Add a spell in the army and the possibility of disaster increases.
He was in the Royal Navy but perhaps you don't understand the difference
The disaster is that he associated with a convicted paedophile who trafficked very young girls - therefore you were inferring that being in the Armed Forces somehow led to disasters like this.

No, there is no link, only in your mind.

We could deduce from that kind of link that all communists are mass murderers.
Which is simply not true either.

Anniebach Tue 26-Nov-19 12:18:15

Nice respectable people can become nasty and aggressive if not in a position of power.

trisher Tue 26-Nov-19 12:27:56

Callistemon I leave you to work out why you immediately construed my comment as linking the armed foces with child abuse.
I hope I have always found it somewhere within me to have some sympathy with every human being. It is after all one of the best characteristics of humanity.
Annie I so agree but I am trying to maintain sympathy for you.

merlotgran Tue 26-Nov-19 12:32:42

If anything, a spell in the RN should have tempered Andrew's arrogant behaviour. He had to be part of a team and fight alongside his fellow officers and ratings, relying on their training and support for his very survival.

Prince Harry's active service was character forming and the Invictus Games is a result of the profound effect it had on him.

I have a feeling that post RN, Andrew quickly reverted to the pampered, selfish individual he's always been.

trisher Tue 26-Nov-19 12:36:29

merlotgran someone has posted earlier in this thread that Andrew wasn't popular with other officers so he obviously didn't take that on board (Oh sorry just realised that's a bit of a joke)!

Gonegirl Tue 26-Nov-19 12:45:42

I can't see anything about paedophilia and the forces in trishers posts. confused

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 12:46:19

Callistemon I leave you to work out why you immediately construed my comment as linking the armed forces with child abuse.
Actually, trisher I did not, so you perhaps need to read my post again.

Keep digging.
and not, not funny.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 12:48:08

Andrew is in this mess because of his association with a convicted paedophile and child sex trafficker Gonegirl.

trisher was trying to work out why he followed this route and added that his time in the Army would have contributed to this.

As he wasn't in the Army we can dismiss this argument anyway, it is a non-sequitur.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 12:49:56

and trisher feels some sympathy for him which I find strange.

Gonegirl Tue 26-Nov-19 12:52:20

Even at 60 we are the product of our family

That's very interesting. Might make a good thread.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 12:52:45

Is he still an Admiral or has he had to step down from that too?

moggie57 Tue 26-Nov-19 12:58:41

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moggie57 Tue 26-Nov-19 13:02:17

product of our family .the royal family and so called spokes people.give advise...andreww ruled by a rod of iron. i still cant believe the photos of charles and the queen when greeting each other as a child saying how do you do mummy?
wherews the hugs and cuddles. ok they seem to have thawed a bit with william and kate.but you never see them hug in public. all protocol.. strict up bringing.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 13:03:42

andreww ruled by a rod of iron.
I don't think so.

I do know people who call their mothers Mummy. In fact, DD sometimes calls me Mummy.

Callistemon Tue 26-Nov-19 13:03:59

and so does DS.
He did yesterday.