Prince Andrew

Well, I did try to teach mine right from wrong Anniebach.

But that brings up the huge question of nature -v- nurture.

Ps my leading him down the paths of morality remark was in response to the discussion about when is a leading rein nor a leading rein.

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Yes it does Callistemon .

Many parents try teach their children right from wrong but not all children stay on the straight and narrow.

I feel sorry for the Queen when she is criticised for the actions of her family. Not one of us had to cope with such a change in life as she did age 10. And this was 80 years ago.

Sorry Callistemon read your post about reins after I posted

Prince Andrew standing down from all his charities- just announced!

Took him long enough Pantglas2!

What are they going to do with him?

Suppose he has to go into early retirement

Yes Anniebach a bit like Prince Philip, we probably won’t see or hear much of him apart from the Epstein business and possibly Beatrice wedding from hereon in.

Not like Prince Philip really, Philip has sensibly decided to take a step back, to retire because he's very old.
Prince Andrew has been told he won't be allowed to play a visible part in the life of the RF.

Wonder if he can leave this country for holidays or will he have to stay put. I know nothing of diplomatic immunity

Only the queen has full diplomatic immunity, he only has it for civil prosecutions I think so wouldn't apply - perhaps that'll curtail his jaunts!

Gardening, stamp collecting ?

It was said he would continue with Pitch@Palace in a private capacity, he can no longer run it from Buck House. Read yesterday some MP’s want investigations carried out into
Pitch@Palace More trouble ?

I am incompetent to judge the evidence against the Duke of York. A huge tide of popular opinion, and also reputable charities, and his own personal staff has turned against him.Some of thr comments are entertaining.

Naturally I don't want to make myself unpopular but at the same time it's one of my principles that condemnation belongs in a court of law, not on popular media.

PS on the other hand, it's a good thing the rich are no longer able to arrogate lawlessness to themselves as of right.

I'm not sure that he is interested in gardening, farming, the countryside etc like his older brother Anniebach .
Somehow I can't see him getting stuck into hedgelaying!

Shooting?
He holds shooting parties.
He could start a free-range, organic poultry and meat business?

PS In view of the Duke's alleged stupidity I feel sorry for him that his alleged crimes are so visible while many many others are evil, there is institutional evil.

One job the Duke of York may attempt before long is rooting out the gangs that are enslaving children as drug dealers: so called "County Lines".

That surely is up to the police

When Profumo hit the headlines he had to retire, he took up
charity work. This Andrew cannot do, he has been dumped by
many charities , no charity will want his name associated with them. If he had committed a murder he could start again but not after his relationship with a sex offender .

Annie that's the sort of case I was thinking of. I think if The Duke could do some actual lowly work and not simply add his name as a patron, his work would be acceptable.
The Prince of Wales actually does work I believe though I cannot remember what it is exactly.

Hedgelaying Alexa
Apart from other duties.

It would not be appropriate for Andrew to work with young people after his association with Epstein, even if he is innocent of any crime himself.

Nothing to discuss! Liar liar pants on fire! How can you not see from every word or gesture, voluntary or involuntary, that he thought he could dupe everyone - including his own mother!
Poor old thing - can you imagine being an honest 93 year old and having to deal with a dysfunctional family like that. Every morning having to get her hair and make up on, put on her court shoes and deal with the likes of them? Not to mention that other narcissistic liar BoJO.
I'll bet all she wants to do is to put her feet up and check out the Racing Times. Give the sweet lady a break. Its time for King Charles!

I have a certain amount of sympathy for Andrew (much as I disaprove of the RF). If you are brought up with a father who is serially unfaithful and a mother who ignores his peccadilloes you are bound to have a rather twisted view of women and relationships. If you also have a lot of cash and are treated as someone special things will be worse. Add a spell in the army and the possibility of disaster increases. He's not all that bright either.