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GabriellaG54 Thu 12-Sept-19 20:26:13

Today in Guildford, I was reminded if a thread a while back re persons who are fat/overweight.
I was beyond shocked to see 4 simply huge men and similar women, at different times, none of whom were together and all of whom were truly enormous.
I would find it unbelievable if all 5 were to fall back on the 'I'm diabetic' excuse.
The idea that people can let themselves get into that state and keep eating (as 2 of them were) is very sad indeed and then they moan that they can't fit into bus or airline seats and can't work because of A, B, C or D.
Are there no answers to obesity because there were also some seriously overweight men whose man boobs and bellies hung pendulously over their trousers.

On another note.
I had an appointment at Virgin Money in Guildford.
On arrival I was immediately greeted by a beautifully turned out advisor who offered me tea, coffee, biscuits...?? and showed me to the several sumptuous velvet armchairs and settees piled high with velvet cushions.
The 60" tv was showing the BBC afternoon news and weather and my drink was placed on a coaster on a glass table.
A man with a hi-viz vest was lounging on a swivel chair opposite, dunking biscuits in his tea and reading a newspaper.
At one end of the room was a fully kitted out kitchen with a white modern dining table and chairs and a 'rest room' with M&F loos situated on an adjacent corridor.
The ceiling lights were enormous with plush red, gold and black drum shades inset with circular mirrors which reflected the floor areas.

I completed my business seated on a red velvet banquette with a top spec Mac pc suspended from the ceiling which could be pulled down and angled to suit the advisor.
When I left, she invited me to drop in any time I'm in town to take refreshment and read, watch tv chill out.
This begs the question where does the money to support this, come from?
I don't even bank with them, mind you, the furniture was utterly luxurious. ?

EllanVannin Fri 13-Sept-19 15:16:35

Obesity can be self-inflicted and in lots of cases it is !
My ( not so old late mum ) died because she ignored her GP's advice to reduce, or even cut out suet puds and sweet/cream dishes, trifles etc.

She was only just over 5ft in stature but was a big girl and could pile on the weight just by looking at a cream cake. In her mid 60's, she developed typeII diabetes, then she had angina, then intermittent claudication in her legs, finding it difficult to walk----then latterly she had a stroke.
All because she wouldn't reduce her food intake, nor take her medication for her diabetes.

I've always had a good appetite, but as I've got older it's not as it was. I only eat when I'm hungry, which is only twice a day and I know when to stop ( mum didn't ) Fortunately I've remained slim all my life and have only gained 1/2 a stone throughout as I've been 9 and a 1/2 stone mostly.

I've watched" big" young mums chomping their way through large double-decker cheese/beef burgers and it's made me feel quite sick---all the grease and fat. It just fills me with horror at how these young women will be in a few years time.

My mum was only 67 when she died, unnecessarily.

Jane10 Fri 13-Sept-19 15:24:38

There's a happy medium here. Undoubtedly there are some people whose weight gain is for the wide range of reasons outlined by others on this thread. However, there's also no doubt that some people's weight gain is unnecessary.
We watched in fascination recently when an obese young mum told her little daughter that she'd want jam on her iced chocolate muffin! She then slathered it with strawberry jam. That wee girl is doomed to become the same size as her mum and will doubtless then blame it on her genes instead of poor food choices.

EllanVannin Fri 13-Sept-19 15:31:37

It's this obsession with food that drives me mad. It's as though folk have never been used to it or have never eaten certain things without going in raptures over it ?

Gonegirl Fri 13-Sept-19 15:34:26

I think the second part of the OP was to give us the idea that the poster is very comfortable off financially.

But then, most well off people don't shout about it. confused

Gonegirl Fri 13-Sept-19 15:36:30

What the first part was all about, God knows.

Why would you start a thread just to crticise unfortunate people and come across as holier than thou?

Fennel Fri 13-Sept-19 15:36:50

I've thought that too, EllanV.
I'm obsessed with food too, but TG the healthy type.
And I've got skinny genes.
I agree with those who say that Gabrielle spoils her point by being too judgemental, but worry for the future of the NHS when heavy people end up in hospital.

Gonegirl Fri 13-Sept-19 15:36:57

Food is nice EllanV

Gonegirl Fri 13-Sept-19 15:37:21

Love a cream doughnut myself.

EllanVannin Fri 13-Sept-19 15:40:52

It's knowing when to stop though Gonegirl !

lemongrove Fri 13-Sept-19 15:48:28

It’s a growing trend Gonegirl and a worrying one ( obesity)
Especially amongst the younger generation.In the 1960/70’s
How many large young women and men did you see?
For that matter ( linked perhaps?) how many people used to walk about the streets eating and drinking?

Namsnanny Fri 13-Sept-19 16:13:06

Sensible posts (as usual) sirchenjin?
I echo the thought ‘what other subject can be spoken about in such a way?

maddyone Fri 13-Sept-19 16:18:03

It is a very worrying trend Lemon, especially that there are so many very young people who are overweight today.
I don’t pretend to know the answer, but burying our heads in the sand certainly isn’t it.
It is a drain on our over stretched health service already, how much bigger a drain will it be in 20, 30, 40, 50 years?

Oldandverygrey Fri 13-Sept-19 16:27:51

Like most people I see men and women every day who are seriously overweight for whatever reason, but I think it rather unkind to declare it on Gransnet, citing their boobs and bellies.

GagaJo Fri 13-Sept-19 17:07:37

Look, to be blunt, we are old. No longer relevant. The younger generation aren't interested in what we think. Our day has been and gone.

And sitting in judgement on the younger generation just screams PAST IT even more.

'In my day...'

No one is interested, other than other oldies. Hence Gransnet

GagaJo Fri 13-Sept-19 17:09:06

And YES, I do think GG was ostentatiously displaying her wealth. NO idea why.

I'm a Virgin (hahaha!) saver. I have a Virgin Lounge (which is what she was on about) card. Big deal. Anyone impressed? No? Quite.

annep1 Fri 13-Sept-19 17:20:44

Some very rude unkind comments about GabrielleaG54. No need for it.
Would you speak to friends like this?

GagaJo Fri 13-Sept-19 17:23:09

If they were 1) As rude about other people and 2) As arrogant, yes.

But then, people that are rude and arrogant aren't people I want to spend time with so I wouldn't tolerate them as friends for long.

PLUS, annep1, if you search under her user name, you'll find that she is frequently deliberately inflammatory. She likes to start an argument.

Namsnanny Fri 13-Sept-19 17:32:28

Could anyone get away with citing any other health issue that is ‘draining’ the NHS in such a bile filled way?
Try substituting fat with let’s say....abortion, drug rehab, trans gender operations, hiv drugs, mismanaged cosmetic surgery, non tax payers from abroad having ‘free’ surgery or dentistry, injuryincurred in the persistent of pleasure (usually by the financially well off) and more.
The point is GG is looking to make trouble not highlight the impoverished nhs.

GagaJo Fri 13-Sept-19 17:35:35

Exactly. A 'wind them up and set them off' merchant.

No point getting offended by her. It's just 'all p*ss and wind' as they say in Norfolk.

maddyone Fri 13-Sept-19 17:42:00

Gagajo, I’m afraid you are coming across as rude and arrogant yourself with your responses. Also you are not spending time with anyone at all on Gransnet, you are engaging yourself in an online discussion. You are able to take part in another discussion if you prefer, or indeed do something else altogether.
As for your opinion that ‘sitting in judgement on the younger generation’ screams past it, let me enlighten you. My daughter is part of the younger generation, she is also a GP. It is her opinion that overweight people are going to become a much bigger burden on the health service, and from what she tells me, I agree with her. She is in a better place to form an opinion than I am, or indeed, probably than you are, unless you happen to be a practicing GP.

maddyone Fri 13-Sept-19 17:43:18

annep, I agree with you about the comments about Gabriella. I sincerely hope no one would be as rude or unkind face to face.

Gonegirl Fri 13-Sept-19 17:44:53

Well, I don't think that's fair tbh. I would guess that any severely overweight person would distressed being so.

No need to deliberately insult them.

GagaJo Fri 13-Sept-19 17:45:49

maddyone, I do not dispute the health implications. But if someone goes on an online forum to say how much obese people disgust them, they have to expect a response. As a medical professional, I am certain your daughter treats every patient with respect, not with disgust and loathing.

As I said, she does it because she likes a response. It's a periodic thing.

If she didn't want anger, she'd couch her thoughts more tactfully. It isn't the first time and won't be the the last time she does this.

Gonegirl Fri 13-Sept-19 17:46:21

And I would certainly argue with Gabriella if she made comments like that in a rl conversation I was included in.

maddyone Fri 13-Sept-19 17:49:52

Some of the unpleasantness on Gransnet disappoints me. Especially coming from mature people.