This is not a thread about a thread but...

Sirchenjin- maybe we have a different definition of worry.

Perhaps if you could explain to me how worrying is helping you. This isn’t being selfish. I honestly cannot see how my worrying could possibly help someone else.
If there was something I could do to help that would be a different situation.

There are things that those who are worried and unhappy about the state of our country can do.

I have already written to my MP and told him that although he is a good constituency MP, I will not vote for him while Boris Johnson is leader of the Conservative Party. If enough people express their disapproval of the infiltration if both main parties by extremists, it will give encouragement to moderates to stand firm and true to their values & beliefs.

I shall vote tactically in the General Election. This website has been set up to help people to do this.

www.tactical-vote.uk

JaneA- you haven’t sat worrying though have you?
You have done something.
Now that you have done what you think was possible have you stopped worrying?

What a strange argument; writing letters about things that concern you make you feel proactive but you don't actually stop worrying about something that concerns you until something is done about it. Women wouldn't be allowed the vote if everyone had thought like that etc etc

Yes Pamela of course I’m still worried and afraid for the future, not so much for myself but for my children, grandchildren and other people of their age.

See my previous post yesterday.

PamelaJ1 - what the last 2 posters said.

I'm always quite fascinated by people who don't believe in worrying about these things - as Labaik rightly says, if people didn't worry about things and do something about them then nothing would change for the better.

Do you do any volunteering? Any community based work? Any charity work? If so, I imagine that you do because you were affected by something, worried that enough wasn't being done, and wanted to bring about improvements so got involved.

"If there was something I could do to help that would be a different situation." That only applies if you have done everything you can to help, and even then there is still concern about the future. Maybe not your own future, if you have pots of money and/or you are planning to move to some other country where the future is rosy.

Have you written to your MP, posted your views on Facebook or another public platform, told family and friends what you feel about the situation, gone on a protest march, signed a petition etc etc etc ?

People who tend towards being natural worriers will, of course, worry about Brexit. Those of us who aren't worriers won't, that's all. I think I'm lucky to be thoroughly bored by it all.

Boris is not an "extremist". He is just trying to get a job done that the people voted should be done.

Janeainsworth what do you hope will be the outcome of your tactical voting?

Not necessarily Hetty - perhaps those of us who see that it could have a massive impact on our families are simply worried enough to discuss it, educate ourselves, think about how it will affect us and attempt to mitigate for it by planning and by getting involved.

I haven't done any of those things Elegran. What good would any of that do? I just want this awful job completed now so we can concentrate on the future.

He is just trying to get a job done that the people voted should be done

Nonsense. A no deal was never an option - no-one in their right mind has ever wanted that (apart from this idiot and his idiotic followers).

Idiotic followers as in the Cabinet

Leaving the EU was the choice made.

This can't drag on forever. If there can be no deal other avenues have to be explored.

I very much doubt he wants a No Deal.

How can you stop worrying if you are bothered by all the shenanigans? I can't choose whether to worry or not. I've written to my MP 3 times, had one reply, I tweet and Fb and will continue to do so. Occassionally (twice) I find someone with the opposite view who wants to engage in the discussion but mostly I just get insults on Twitter or mindless soundbites. It is hard sometimes to believe that people voted based on a reasoned assessment.

Being proactive is good; writing letters, marching, signing petitions.

Arguing on a website, getting worked up to the point of being offensive to others, being beside yourself with worry, using the fact that your worry means you're better than those who aren't wringing their hands - well, that solves nothing at all.

Why do people think that No Deal on Oct 31 will bring this debacle to an end? It would just be the beginning...

Really Gone? I don't.

Who is "wringing their hands" and "getting worked up"*Miss*?

People do.

One member here said her doctor had advised her to stay off because of her health!

We see the same thing with family issues; people who worry themselves sick, and others who tell them its because they somehow love their families more than anyone else.

Which 'people'?

And that GP seems very sensible - I know I've certainly stayed away from more robust online forums when my depression has been bad. If that user feels that her mental health is suffering as a result then she's doing the right thing by staying away.

Being on this forum changes nothing and just makes me feel quite sad. However, right from before the referendum this forum has provided me with information that I would have struggled to find elsewhere and I am most grateful to the people that provide it. On the downside a short time on here often makes me feel the way that I do when I have abuse shouted at me when I'm wearing pro EU clothing or on a rally; a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that doesn't go away. Why should those who worry about how Brexit might affect other people be accused of thinking they're better than those who don't? I very much doubt that any person who admits to worrying about the current situation hasn't been proactive.

And as for 'getting worked up'.. well, read the brexit threads to see that almost every day.
"Brexshitters"
"Remoaners" and all manner of other nasty things people say about others.

She hasn't stayed away though, SirChenjin.

Absolutely - there's nastiness on both sides, but I don't think I've seen any Leavers worrying about leaving (and consequently "being beside yourself with worry, using the fact that your worry means you're better than those who aren't wringing their hands". They seem to be relishing the idea of a no deal and 'getting the job done'.