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phoenix Sat 20-Jul-19 21:35:53

Hello all, usual good wishes.

Yes, it's 50 years since the moon landing, and it was (and continues to be) an absolutely amazing achievement, but..........the tv and radio time devoted to it is starting to irritate!

Is it just me?

HannahLoisLuke Sun 21-Jul-19 22:30:32

Fourormore you put my feelings into words exactly!
It's high time we looked after the earth and stopped spending on the ego trip of space travel. Already we've carried our dirty habits to the moon, leaving spent vehicles, machines and even human excrement up there, while
tons of debris circle the Earth.
I know we've learned a lot from it and have benefitted in a roundabout way from the space programme, but I think we could have gained those benefits in a less damaging way.
I actually feel quite angry about it.

jocork Sun 21-Jul-19 21:03:48

It has brought back lots of memories for me so I'm happy to hear more. I remember being got up in the early hours to watch it live on TV. It was also my dad's birthday so I always remember when it was, although I was always confused that it was recorded as 20th of July as here in the UK it was on the 21st! Took me years to work out that the date was that in the USA! It has been good to think of my dad too - something I rarely do as he died in the 1970s when I was only 20.

boho43 Sun 21-Jul-19 20:29:54

Corned Beef & Branson sandwich - ah......yummy! Sorry, perhaps that should be on another thread.

granny4hugs Sun 21-Jul-19 20:23:28

Apparently Apollo 11 had less computing power than a modern washing machine...
I dunno.
I too feel I should be more into all the fanfare about the first moon landing but I cannot help feeling its all about trying to focus on ANY human achievement when at the moment we don't seem to be able to manage to achieve basic common sense. I know. What a grump.

Elegran Sun 21-Jul-19 20:07:03

The flushing toilet was only for the elite few when first invented. Should that never have happened?

Elegran Sun 21-Jul-19 20:05:39

Saggi homeandcity.nasa.gov/
Just some of the 2,000 or so spin-offs that are in everyday use. Select Home or City and Interact. Click on the three dots at the bottom right of each page if you just want to see lists of what is described in the interactions.

knspol Sun 21-Jul-19 20:02:19

Never been particularly interested although thought it an amazing achievement. Brought it home to me last week when I went outside to look at the partial lunar eclipse and thought that people had not only landed there but also walked on the surface.

Saggi Sun 21-Jul-19 19:16:46

So was Concorde an amazing achievment Lemongrove....what was the point and where is it now !? The people who paid for these ‘acheivments’ would never have a chance to use them would they!? I’m all for advancement in science ...but confine it to earthly matters that are useful to the majority of us , NOT to an elite few!

Grandmama Sun 21-Jul-19 18:57:37

I stayed up all night when it actually happened 50 years ago. DH and I watched BBC4 last night looking back at archive footage of Sky at Night, early programmes about space travel, James Burke looking back at old footage some of it of him as a young reporter. The scientists were wearing collars and ties - including someone trying on an early 'space suit'. Fascinating.

maddyone Sun 21-Jul-19 18:18:15

Well Elegran might be surprised to know, but I entirely agree with her. I also agree with BlueBelle.
I think that America engaged in the ‘space race’ with Russia, and winning that race was the most important thing for them. It didn’t matter to them that they offered a safe
sanctuary to the men who had been at the forefront of the design of the flying rockets V1 and V2, or that these men were vile criminals who should really have faced justice for their crimes.

Barmeyoldbat Sun 21-Jul-19 16:49:22

The only day I seem to watch any TV is Sunday night, the rest of the time I am either reading, talking or asleep after a hard day outside. So I have no idea what tripe is on. Also beginning to get a bit bored hearing abut the moon landing on the radio. I do wonder if it ever really happened.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sun 21-Jul-19 16:04:12

I wasn't very interested in the Moon landings then and am still not interested. My sister and I were in bed when it was on the news and Mum came up to wake us up and to ask if we wanted to watch the men on the moon. We said no and I don't feel regretful to have missed it.
There was some coverage at school when we were amassed together in the hall to watch some B&W grainy film. We watched politely but it didn't excite me.
I believe there were demonstrations in the USA about spending the money on better things - there was so much poverty in the Appalachians - and still is.
Sorry, science - fact or fiction - doesn't float my boat.

lemongrove Sun 21-Jul-19 15:51:00

Elegran...you have said it all, so I don’t need to.smile

GabriellaG54 Sun 21-Jul-19 15:23:54

Thanks and returned good wishes to you phoenix
I have no interest in it beyond the event when it happened and a few years afterward when everyone seemed to be sending craft into space.
I have better things to think about and get involved in. Things which are happening right here on earth.

Elegran Sun 21-Jul-19 15:21:10

In short - stop b****y girning. The moon-shot is history, and is in the past and already paid for, so there is no point nagging on about it, as if you can turn back the clock and redivert that money to another cause - and even if it had not been spent on that, do you really think it would have been spent then on causes that you think are morte deserving now

That was the priority then. Perhaps impressing the Russians that the West was just as capable as they were of space travel was a valid priority then We are talking here about the era of the Bay of Pigs and the Russian desire to intimidate the West with their scientific and military capabilities. Had they been allowed to keep the sole ascendancy in space as well as potentially on the ground, perhaps the moon would now be a base for a fleet of Soviet spacewarships poised to intervene if their dependencies of the US, the UK and the countries of western and eastern Europe showed signs of rebellion and trying to secede from a New Universal Soviet Union.

Elegran Sun 21-Jul-19 15:09:18

What have the Romans space researchers ever done for us?
Interactive spin-offs graphic - homeandcity.nasa.gov/
Select Home or City and nteract. Click on the three dots at the bottom right of each page if you just want to see lists. These are not exhaustive, NASA says their spin-off annual magazine describe 2,000 or so. I haven't looked at those, so I can't comment, but the interactive graphics page in the link has lots.)

Elegran Sun 21-Jul-19 14:52:43

I don't see how it could have been a con, as there were thousands of people involved - from several sets of astronauts through the instructors in the training courses through the designers and producers of the physical equipment involved and the electrics and electronics needed, the communications systems, the computer programmers, the interpreters of the data being sent back during the voyages and the corrections to the programming need for minor deviations, the photographers, the radio hams listening to every word exchanged, the families of the astronauts.

Then there are the observations, reports and photographs which have been confirmed by further observations and calculations by scientists, astrophysicists and learned academics of many nations, the moon rocks brought back and studied in detail by geologists from many unrelated laboratories and found to contain elements and combinations of materials which are extremely rare on earth.

How could all those diverse people have been in a conspiracy of silence? If it have been faked, surely some of these experts and people with close, intimate contact with the project would have detected an anomaly and been very vocal about how they had been cheated? Or how could some whistle-blower have resisted publishing his inside story and getting his moment of fame?

Glammy57 Sun 21-Jul-19 14:38:08

I found it boring fifty years ago, and equally tedious now!

Also, I agree with everything BlueBelle wrote.

Jaye53 Sun 21-Jul-19 14:30:28

Was it all a "con" tho.

GinJeannie Sun 21-Jul-19 14:20:54

All the media coverage serves to distract our attention from far more important issues. Brexit not included!

BlueBelle Sun 21-Jul-19 14:18:17

If anyone can tell me what we have achieved from that piece of inventiveness 50 years on I ll listen
Yes I agree that the ability to rocket into space is scientifically clever but what for ??? To what end?? What good has it done ?
I call those men who rescued the Thai boys out of a cave brave I was riveted to the news reports for those days
I call lifeboatmen, paramedics, police, service personnel brave but these men just wanted the kudos of ‘being first’ and America and Russia wanted to beat each other and I can see nothing attractive about that
Let’s put the vast amounts of money spent on the space race (even that name is unappealing and just shrieks of me first me first)into solving problems we have already made on this planet before tramping off to destroy another
sarahellenwhitney to suggest we need to hurry up and get on another planet as we ve ruined this one we are on is about the most selfish sentence I ve seen in a long time

RinOR Sun 21-Jul-19 14:03:50

Well stated. Thank you

CleoPanda Sun 21-Jul-19 13:56:25

I’m puzzled. Why are people watching something on TV that they have little or no interest in? Why watch something to the point of boredom? There are so many channels available and so many other things to do. The coverage, in my opinion has been excellent, interesting and appropriate for the anniversary. I’ve watched some, ignored some.
As for believing that it didn’t actually happen, I’m speechless.

Kim19 Sun 21-Jul-19 13:47:52

I lived in Cyprus on the day of the landing and I remember being fixated on the beautiful full moon and thinking 'Wow'. I also remember thinking something along the lines of 'We'll probably be living there in 50 years'. How wrong can one be?!!

maddyone Sun 21-Jul-19 13:30:30

No Elegran, I was alluding the post of 11.57,

‘Or was that okay because they were ours and working on the side of the angels?’

It is an undisputed fact that the UK and it’s allies fought fascism. There is no need for that tone, especially since we have just had the 75th celebrations D Day. We had a thread on Gransnet where many members related the stories of their fathers and other family members who were involved in that operation. Those people deserve respect, unlike the murdering users of free slave labour in their vile factories of death. Try reading a few first hand accounts, I’ve read quite a few, I can send you some titles in you would like me too.