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Recording Boris and partner

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annep1 Sat 22-Jun-19 10:30:54

This is totally ridiculous as a news headline. Can't a couple have a row without the world knowing. I'm not a Boris fan but this is out of order imo.

GabriellaG54 Sat 22-Jun-19 21:41:10

The guy is a d**k.
Did it for the money.
I hope he gets pilloried.

Anja Sat 22-Jun-19 22:00:07

Good on the neighbour for calling the police. Anything could have happened. Too many people turn a blind eye to domestic violence. She was heard to shout for him to ‘get out’ several times.

As it happened this was just a rather vocal row, but better safe than sorry. Also, when suspected child abuse is overheard, better safe than sorry.

Callistemon Sat 22-Jun-19 22:05:06

If you were being constantly disturbed by loud rows, loud music, barking dogs, coming from a neighbour's property sufficient to cause you constant annoyance, then you might well resort to recording it as proof when complaining to the Council if you wanted to go down that route.

Recording the row, calling the police and passing the recording to the Guardian? hmm

After reading his side of the story, this man sounds like a sanctimonious prat, unfortunately.

Callistemon Sat 22-Jun-19 22:09:12

If you thought someone was being abused then yes, you might well call the police - but not the press.
If you suspected a child was in danger then the appropriate services.

craftyone Sat 22-Jun-19 22:14:46

It was a very obvious setup, making sure that the equipment was there to record through walls, taking car numbers, calling the leftie guardian. Conservative members will vote for Boris esp now that he has shown himself to be human, goodness me every couple has a row from time to time, luckily most don`t have neighbours who invade privacy. It is his policies that count, not his personal life.

Willynilly Sat 22-Jun-19 22:26:09

If our possible future PM (2 marriages, several affairs, at least 1 illegitimate child and a current partner just older than his eldest daughter) has a row loud enough to cause a disturbance, what business is it of ours? It's not as if, as a country, we will be relying on his judgment, his integrity or his moral compass is it?
I'm sure Carrie was simply 'being difficult', just as much as the Greenpeace protestor 'asked for it'.

Callistemon Sat 22-Jun-19 22:34:46

I think he should be judged, like any politician, on his record and what he says he wants to achieve.
After all, the quieter Corbyn has been married three times and had at least one affair.

It is difficult, though, to disregard their private lives when they appear to be unstable.

I wouldn't choose either of them, but that is academic.

EllanVannin Sat 22-Jun-19 23:11:16

Anyone in the public eye must know that they're going to be scrutinised at every move they make and when you have walls as thin as paper, the opportunity is there for anyone who wants to make a quick buck.
The pair of them had obviously been drinking as I doubt that under normal circumstances they would have been carrying on as they did. They should stick to lemonade.

GabriellaG54 Sat 22-Jun-19 23:55:11

Having seen the cut of that couple, they're definitely not people I'd want to associate with. Avoid avoid.
They look like placard waving, pot smoking, Glastonbury going, grungy no-marks and I'd give them a wide berth.
Apparently the female showed Carrie the finger when she saw her in the street.
Typical low class cretins.

GabriellaG54 Sat 22-Jun-19 23:59:25

craftyone
the equipment happened to be a mobile phone. Most of the world who have smart phones can record conversations in just 2 clicks.
It's 2019 not 1919 y'know.

Eloethan Sun 23-Jun-19 00:26:44

craftyone How could it be a set up? It's not possible to set up a huge, noisy argument is it, unless Boris and his girlfriend were part of the set up? I agree with you that it's his policies and past performance in office that should receive the most attention and, in my view, they stink too.

Gabriella Perhaps you weren't aware but "cretin" was the word used to describe someone with specific physical and learning disabilities caused, I think, by thyroid deficiency - and to use it as an insult is disrespectful of people with a disability and is, well, a bit low class.

grannyactivist Sun 23-Jun-19 00:31:13

I have never had a row with my husband - and if the day ever did dawn when we began to shout at each other then the marriage would be over for me. I adore my husband, but I was brought up in a house where rowing and domestic violence was the norm and I really wouldn't tolerate it for a second. Fortunately we are both calm people who are used to discussing things and therefore are able to agree to disagree without getting overheated.

As for the occurrence in question; interviews with other neighbours demonstrate that they too were concerned by what they heard and one woman said that she was thinking of calling the police herself when they actually arrived. Because of my own family history I have to say that I too would have called the police, but would be unlikely to think of recording the contretemps. Nowadays though, young people do tend to record anything and everything, so it's not really a surprising thing to happen.

The Guardian doesn't have a reputation for chequebook journalism, so I would be surprised (and disappointed) if they paid for the story; much more likely that the man in question doesn't like BJ and saw this as an opportunity to expose some of his more unsavoury actions.

GabriellaG54 Sun 23-Jun-19 01:10:57

Cretin/cretinous is and always has been a word used to describe a person whose actions are ill-judged in other words, stupid.
I make no apology.

annep1 Sun 23-Jun-19 03:31:37

GabriellaG is correct.

Grandma70s Sun 23-Jun-19 06:12:34

I’m surprised so many people think shouting and throwing things is normal behaviour between couples. I think it shows him up for the lout he is. If any man in my life had behaved like that, even once, I’d have been out quicker than lightning. I don’t know anything about the woman, but no doubt she is as bad.

crystaltipps Sun 23-Jun-19 06:32:13

Funny how those who support Mark Field for manhandling a protester, since she “could have been a terrorist” now are criticising a neighbour for calling the police over a row which “could have been domestic violence “. Or are you criticising him for contacting the press.? He didn’t get any money for it, btw , so those who said he did it for the money are wrong. He may have called the police for the right reasons, and may have contacted the press as he knew the public would be interested. They are interested as this debate shows. If you’re not interested in the story don’t read it, and move on.

janeainsworth Sun 23-Jun-19 07:11:32

annepl your screen shot shows that both gabriella and eloethan are right, but that doesn’t mean that Gabriella was right to use the term as she did.

The point is that a medical definition is being used as a term of abuse. Is that ok? Surely not.
‘Spastic’ is also a medical term but using it to abuse someone is not considered acceptable in polite society.

Cretinism refers to a deficiency of thyroid hormone.
Diabetes refers to a deficiency of insulin.

How would the many people with diabetes feel if ‘diabetic’ suddenly became a term
of abuse?

EllanVannin Sun 23-Jun-19 07:47:38

So it's those kind of oiks who live there then ? In their big posh houses.Makes you laugh doesn't it ? Manners of a pig.

crystaltipps Sun 23-Jun-19 08:02:09

They aren’t big posh houses . They are big houses which are now flats in south London. I suppose the “manners of a pig” refers to those who scream and shout at each other at 1 am?

crystaltipps Sun 23-Jun-19 08:02:56

I bet they’ll move away soon. To a proper posh area.

crystaltipps Sun 23-Jun-19 08:04:18

No 10 Downing Street.

Firecracker123 Sun 23-Jun-19 08:07:44

I hope so.

EllanVannin Sun 23-Jun-19 08:20:00

crystaltipps I was referring to the plebs next door with nothing else better to do but report people. Tittle-tattles.

Though it does paint a picture of those who think they're someone just because they live in " that " area, whoever they might be. Those with manners mind their own business.

Beckett Sun 23-Jun-19 08:32:11

Despite the police contacting them to say all was well they decided to release the recording to the Guardian. They are anti-Brexit and the woman boasts that she gave Boris the finger in the street. The recording was done, not in their flat as has previously been reported, but on the landing outside Ms. Symonds door

The street has been "plastered" with anti-Boris posters. Ms. Symonds says she has received hand delivered hate mail and no longer feels safe in her own home.

Anniebach Sun 23-Jun-19 08:37:02

Seems it was a man who contacted the Guardian, he is a remainer and believes someone who wants to be PM should
be accountable for all their words, actions and behaviour